Looking at the landing page for the new Surface devices (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface) the top third of the page looks really amateurish in terms of web design. Clicking one of the "Meet the new" buttons really drives it home.
Introducing Copilot+ PCs
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#92The AI is the least interesting part of this announcement. Microsoft is giving ARM another try with a special branding that's supposed to guarantee some level of performance and quality. That's possibly huge news.
It's also notable that Qualcomm is officially upstreaming kernel support for the Snapdragon Elite platform that Microsoft is pushing, so those systems may actually not suck at running Linux.
Yeah, “ARM-based Linux laptop with 22h battery life” is much more interesting to me than “Windows 11 ARM-based AI PC”. If the TPU can eventually be utilized by open models under Linux that’s just a cherry on top.
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#93Looking at the landing page for the new Surface devices ( https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface ) the top third of the page looks really amateurish in terms of web design. Clicking one of the "Meet the new" buttons really drives it home.
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#94Apple will do this in ~3 years or so and everyone will call it the biggest leap (“visionary”) in the history of computers
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#95I am honestly not excited about the "AI" tech here--I'm excited about the battery life improvements that will come from using ARM chips. Battery life was the reason I chose an M1 laptop over the alternatives. Hopefully we can get some more competition in the space with these new chips!
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#96Are they secure boot locked or can we crowbar Linux aarch64 onto them?
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#97The AI is the least interesting part of this announcement. Microsoft is giving ARM another try with a special branding that's supposed to guarantee some level of performance and quality. That's possibly huge news.
Not quite. Hidden at the very end of Microsoft's blognouncement[1] is this tidbit (emphasis mine):
> We look forward to expanding through deep partnerships with Intel and AMD, starting with Lunar Lake and Strix. We will bring new Copilot+ PC experiences at a later date.
So it's less Microsoft pivoting to and giving ARM a try again but rather testing the waters and distributing the risks by introducing ARM into a line of laptops and tablets that will still be fundamentally x86. Arguably, the only reason ARM is first to store shelves is because Qualcomm released this generation first before Intel and AMD.
This isn't as significant as Apple throwing Intel out to pasture and converting to ARM wholesale, not yet anyway.
[1]: https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2024/05/20/introducing-copi...
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#98That’s a bubble
"AI PC", it's a new buzz in Computex 2024 event.
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#99The thing is that everything I need just works on my ARM Mac and it’s been so for couple years already. Yet I keep hearing that “MS is committing to ARM”.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love myself a Surface that’s super fast, responsive, has many app and good battery life. But I just can’t get myself to buy one whenever I try it in the store. So MBP+iPad it is, year after year.
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#100It's clear that AI can be the catalyst for creating a lot of customer-facing value. (Though I still contend that the current incarnation of large language models ain't it yet.) Requiring a powerful (and power-hungry) GPU in all devices is non-tenable, so having a dedicated NPU is a pretty sleek way forward (that, to be fair, Apple spearheaded).
I'm very curious to see what APIs will be open to developers, because I think "next billion-dollar startup"-style value-generation won't be found in the generative aspect of these models, but rather the promise of automation, synthesis, summarization, agent invocation, and so on.