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Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by user_7832 »

jsheard wrote: post #27
delusional wrote: post #18

The AI is the least interesting part of this announcement. Microsoft is giving ARM another try with a special branding that's supposed to guarantee some level of performance and quality. That's possibly huge news.

It's also notable that Qualcomm is officially upstreaming kernel support for the Snapdragon Elite platform that Microsoft is pushing, so those systems may actually not suck at running Linux.

In the past a few Snapdragon 8 Gen x chip dev kits have had Linux support if I recall correctly. I'd love to have built a device out of them but they seem quite expensive unfortunately for consumers ($800-1000, often from grey market sources). It's nonetheless good to see Linux support.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by jsheard »

dingle_thunk wrote: post #39
delusional wrote: post #18

The AI is the least interesting part of this announcement. Microsoft is giving ARM another try with a special branding that's supposed to guarantee some level of performance and quality. That's possibly huge news.

Microsoft has been consistently trying to give ARM a try since the surface RT. Consumers are not going to bite. marginal power saving is not meaningful.

The first iteration of Windows ARM didn't have any x86 emulation layer, so that one was doomed from the start. The second iteration did, but it initially couldn't run 64bit apps and the performance was poor. They do have 64bit support now and it sounds like the emulation performance has come a long way.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by whitehexagon »

sturza wrote: post #33

Microsoft's Strategy and Products: Microsoft is shifting away from Intel chips, favoring Qualcomm's latest Snapdragon X Elite processors. The new Qualcomm chips boast better performance, power efficiency, and battery life, aiming to compete with Apple Silicon. Microsoft is launching Copilot Plus PCs, featuring built-in AI hardware for enhanced performance. Surface AI Announcements: Major updates to the Surface lineup…

> Can be configured with up to 32GB of memory

From my experience running 'AI' locally I would have expected 32GB to be the minimum spec machine. Assuming memory unification if they try to compete with Apple.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

whitehexagon wrote: post #44
sturza wrote: post #33

Microsoft's Strategy and Products: Microsoft is shifting away from Intel chips, favoring Qualcomm's latest Snapdragon X Elite processors. The new Qualcomm chips boast better performance, power efficiency, and battery life, aiming to compete with Apple Silicon. Microsoft is launching Copilot Plus PCs, featuring built-in AI hardware for enhanced performance. Surface AI Announcements: Major updates to the Surface lineup…

> Can be configured with up to 32GB of memory From my experience running 'AI' locally I would have expected 32GB to be the minimum spec machine. Assuming memory unification if they try to compete with Apple.

My 32GB machine is remarkably not all that useful for testing and using AI models. It can use some good models, but I’m frequently disappointed by how many I can’t even come close to running.
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