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> No code I wrote five years ago is in production today. This is wild! How can you be so sure?
He's a JavaScript dev
ROFL !
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That's a funny statement I'm sure-ish some of my code from 10 yrs ago is still in production. Though I'm far removed from where it actually runs. Maybe even some of the older code I wrote (which at this point is ~ 15yrs old) might be still around (at a different place) 5 yrs ago? No problem. I even have to still maintain the darn thing. Of course, different companies, different cases, etc.
Agreed, I believe code I wrote over 20 years ago is still running. It wasn’t good, but apparently that’s not as important as we tell ourselves.
If its still running after 20 years, its great code.
Re: Steve Wozniak: When I die these are the moments I want to remember
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You think like this today . Would your life be better if you had this stance for your last 30 years? Would that be your advice for young adults who are just entering life? I guess you were lucky that you didn't have any cases of cancer in the family (if you had, then I apologize and I'm sorry). No important problems that are only easily solved by lots of money. But if it's just luck, then it's really inappropriate to…
I can speak to the situation you mentioned, as it happened twice. However almost no money had to be thrown at the problem, and the outcome was the best that could have been wished for. I live in Europe where we generally have universal healthcare. Perhaps the author you responded to is also living in a similar situation? I for one would take the same view as them. Work to live, and try only to do meaningful work. Lif…
I guess "universal healthcare" works in your country. But generally "universal healthcare" has treated my grandmother for sleep problems, but later when she died they figured out that the reason was intestine cancer. No doctor gave a sh*t that day. With money and private healthcare this could be avoided.
My mother when visiting a "universal healthcare" doctor (queues are several months long) for digestion problems AND having a genetic history of cancer was given Xanax for depression. She fortunately tossed out the receipt for it after leaving the doctor office, because she's not stupid, certainly not depressed.
So I think mentioning a mythical "universal healthcare" in my direction doesn't have the outcome you'd like it to have. Even more, it kind of proves my point, that you don't need money if everything goes well. You need it when things go to sh*t.
Re: Steve Wozniak: When I die these are the moments I want to remember
#54It's interesting how Woz and Jobs represent polar opposites on this topic with Jobs being very "the end justifies the means" type of person. > Finding things to be grateful for in the midst of hardship — like your loved ones or good health — can shift your brain into a more optimistic mindset and help you overcome those challenges, Wozniak added. I guess this is what it all boils down to. The default human setting is…
Sorry to slap this on your comment, but it seems a good place to put it.
We don't know who Jobs or Woz are.
At best, even most people in the field are using 3rd or 5th hand information. Quotes from Jobs or Woz don't show even the tiniest real glimpse into who a person is. Stories about persons, especially those with significant media presence, are often tailored, and invariably seen through the optics of the author of the article. Certainly, anyone who has been through an interview knows that what they say is cut, altered, quoted in partial context, etc.
Only people who have actually worked with Jobs and Woz know them. And even then, they often only know them at work. A brief interjection into a work day once a month isn't "knowing someone" either. Sitting in a room of 1000 people for a company wide meeting isn't knowing them.
My point is, these sorts of deep thoughts aren't something we can gauge from 2nd party discussions about someone. You need to know a person, personally, to actually be able to gauge what they actually believed.
I've always been sort of... sad that so much of the world looks at people from so far away, and then takes stock in what they hear/gleam. Quotes from figures religious, from every religion, are a popular theme here. "Some guy said something 2000 years ago", filtered through a half dozen translations, and church dogma, are taken as if a person had known the person for 20 years. Meanwhile, we literally haven't a clue what was said in such cases.
Yet the same is true of all hearsay strewn about all such figures. It's just word snippets taken out of context, of a single hour in a person's life.
For example, if I asked anyone here the same question 10 years apart, would the answer be the same? Would the response even remotely resemble the prior? If the answer is "yes", then the topic isn't complex, or the person hasn't learned anything in their life.
So to this I would say, irregardless of how many dislike Job's work ethics re: employee interaction, what would a 70 year old Jobs say? And say in person, without being "on"? Or worried about a quote in the media, where single words uttered could shatter or change the image of a cult icon?
Re: Steve Wozniak: When I die these are the moments I want to remember
#55Happiness comes after financial stability.
Re: Steve Wozniak: When I die these are the moments I want to remember
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can speak to the situation you mentioned, as it happened twice. However almost no money had to be thrown at the problem, and the outcome was the best that could have been wished for. I live in Europe where we generally have universal healthcare. Perhaps the author you responded to is also living in a similar situation? I for one would take the same view as them. Work to live, and try only to do meaningful work. Lif…
I guess "universal healthcare" works in your country. But generally "universal healthcare" has treated my grandmother for sleep problems, but later when she died they figured out that the reason was intestine cancer. No doctor gave a sh*t that day. With money and private healthcare this could be avoided. My mother when visiting a "universal healthcare" doctor (queues are several months long) for digestion problems AN…
Why do you think private healthcare would give you a better answer? You accepted the first answer the jniversal healthcare system gave you. Do you have any reason to believe you wouldn't accept that answer if given by a private clinic?
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#57I resonate with this a lot. There is a time horizon beyond which the work we do doesn't really matter. No code I wrote five years ago is in production today. A vanishingly small number of products I built are still around. The act of building is a pleasure, but once it's built, its success and impact are pretty much out of my hands. Once I accepted that, I enjoyed the process a lot more, and ironically my output got…
> I resonate with this a lot.
Agreed.
In my 20 years as a dev.. I am sure my fingerprints (code I wrote) still exist in past jobs... the past companies I have worked for.
Sadly, going back to my first job, I know the project I wrote came to an abrupt end a few years after I left. I am sure that codebase has long since disappeared... though I might still find some code in USB sticks, somewhere.
Even my previous job, some front end gui projects are likely terminated due to structural changes in the company. Going all-cloud with a product which would have changed bespoke applications.
All comes down to experience. If I could go back in time to my first job, I could "hack" out that code in days.. rather than months, but I am diverting the topic a little. lol.
> These days, I take the most pleasure out of building careers and mentoring younger engineers
Again -- agreed!
Doing my bit to help find their feet is very rewarding. Being in my 40s and seeing "kids" that are 10, 15, or near 20 years younger than me is a reality-check for me! It comes a point when my humour in the room no longer lands... because they have no idea what I refer to. I nearly get a heart attack when I hear someone say "I have not seen Robocop"
The other reality-check, and a more serious one, is that I am at an age of guidance... for them. I remember being their age, with little help or guide from the older, senior devs in the room. I swore I would never be like this. Well, I am now at that age they once were.
I know at least a couple of guys I have worked with, for different reasons, have moved on and are successful. If I can claim atleast 2% of their good decisions.. I will take it. Very happy for them!
Getting good pay is one thing. Mentoring new careers is heart warming.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess "universal healthcare" works in your country. But generally "universal healthcare" has treated my grandmother for sleep problems, but later when she died they figured out that the reason was intestine cancer. No doctor gave a sh*t that day. With money and private healthcare this could be avoided. My mother when visiting a "universal healthcare" doctor (queues are several months long) for digestion problems AN…
Why do you think private healthcare would give you a better answer? You accepted the first answer the jniversal healthcare system gave you. Do you have any reason to believe you wouldn't accept that answer if given by a private clinic?
Money + private healthcare gives you options. You can go to different doctors several times a week to get a possibly different diagnosis. It costs money, so having it is a prerequisite. But giving money acts as a motivator here, because doctors want money.
In "universal healthcare", you can only go to a doctor once, or two times a year. Because the waiting queues are so long sometimes. And even if you change the doctor, the previous diagnosis will be in the same system, so if the doctor will get lazy, they'll just repeat the diagnosis. There's no motivator here (well, during communist times, a popular form of motivator was a "present" for doctor, so people found ways to motivate doctors).
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#59Speech - https://vimeo.com/935633920#t=1h48m0s (~15 mins) Without 2 min intro - https://vimeo.com/935633920#t=1h50m0s
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