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I'm a Former Surgeon General and I Couldn't Believe My $10k Medical Bill

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Re: I'm a Former Surgeon General and I Couldn't Believe My $10k Medical Bill

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I have MS and receive an Ocrevus infusion every six months. It's a labyrinth of a process. UHC (insurer) sub-contracts(?) to CVS Caremark to provide specialty drugs. CVS insists on calling me to confirm they can ship it to my house. F no! I'm not running an IV for myself. Sort it out with the hospital. Last go around, the hospital coded the drug as coming from their supply instead of CVS so I got a surprise bill for…

For $700, I'll start my own IV.

Re: I'm a Former Surgeon General and I Couldn't Believe My $10k Medical Bill

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post #8

There are some good points in here. However, it feels disingenuous with the author being a former surgeon general. "the onus of the entire amount still fell on me due to my high-deductible health plan (HDHP)." I mean, yeah, that's how HDHP works. Anyone in healthcare should understand that.

Meanwhile, it's entirely possible to be out of 3000 dollars after an animal bite with a regular insurance plan. Nothing more than an x-ray and a couple stitches, and the out-of-pocket cost was 3000 dollars. One wonders where the premium goes.

Re: I'm a Former Surgeon General and I Couldn't Believe My $10k Medical Bill

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post #11

I have MS and receive an Ocrevus infusion every six months. It's a labyrinth of a process. UHC (insurer) sub-contracts(?) to CVS Caremark to provide specialty drugs. CVS insists on calling me to confirm they can ship it to my house. F no! I'm not running an IV for myself. Sort it out with the hospital. Last go around, the hospital coded the drug as coming from their supply instead of CVS so I got a surprise bill for…

For $700, I'll start my own IV.

Infusion medicine isn't given in the normal gravity-fed IV route, they're precisely controlled for flow rate and time. It's a whole other ball game.

Re: I'm a Former Surgeon General and I Couldn't Believe My $10k Medical Bill

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe that's the way it works. And then you have to transfer to in network provider as soon as humanly possible (perhaps not as humanely possible...)

One of the problems here is that the patient can believe they're at an in-network provider — and be correct about that — and still get hit with "out of network" charges. One of the linked articles[1] explains it slightly better: > Surprise medical bills happen when a doctor or other provider who isn’t in a patient’s insurance network is unexpectedly involved in a patient’s care. Patients may go to a hospital that acc…

This +1000. The whole billing / insurance system is intended to wear you down in a cascading swarm of bullshit.

You want to know if a doctor is in network? Good luck, because the insurance company clearly states that they only provide that information on a best effort basis. The doctor can’t answer, as they refer you back to your insurance company.

You want an outpatient surgery? Great! Make sure your doctor and facility is in network, right? Oops, wrong again! You forgot about the anesthesiologist who you can’t pick ahead of time and is rarely in network. Good luck figuring that out later!

It’s intended to wear you down until you’re afraid of your “rating” aka credit score tanking enough that you just pay up.

Re: I'm a Former Surgeon General and I Couldn't Believe My $10k Medical Bill

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post #8

There are some good points in here. However, it feels disingenuous with the author being a former surgeon general. "the onus of the entire amount still fell on me due to my high-deductible health plan (HDHP)." I mean, yeah, that's how HDHP works. Anyone in healthcare should understand that.

Yeah, and he does. But as he is arguing, the cost is exhorbitant, and if he had known what the cost would be, he would have chosen to do it himself at home. Even if you have an HDHP (especially if you have an HDHP) this is how it should be.

Re: I'm a Former Surgeon General and I Couldn't Believe My $10k Medical Bill

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The US needs to adopt the healthcare model of Singapore. Universal coverage for everyone along with a strong private insurance market as well.

The problem is the current system is basically a giant jobs program. Healthcare spending is approximately 17% of US GDP. Politicians are terrified of rocking the boat on this, so the system will always remain broken.

Re: I'm a Former Surgeon General and I Couldn't Believe My $10k Medical Bill

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I have MS and receive an Ocrevus infusion every six months. It's a labyrinth of a process. UHC (insurer) sub-contracts(?) to CVS Caremark to provide specialty drugs. CVS insists on calling me to confirm they can ship it to my house. F no! I'm not running an IV for myself. Sort it out with the hospital. Last go around, the hospital coded the drug as coming from their supply instead of CVS so I got a surprise bill for…

Greetings from Australia. My brother has MS and gets a monthly infusion of Tysabri. All he does is show his Medicare card and it doesn't cost him anything.

Re: I'm a Former Surgeon General and I Couldn't Believe My $10k Medical Bill

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post #8

There are some good points in here. However, it feels disingenuous with the author being a former surgeon general. "the onus of the entire amount still fell on me due to my high-deductible health plan (HDHP)." I mean, yeah, that's how HDHP works. Anyone in healthcare should understand that.

Meanwhile, it's entirely possible to be out of 3000 dollars after an animal bite with a regular insurance plan. Nothing more than an x-ray and a couple stitches, and the out-of-pocket cost was 3000 dollars. One wonders where the premium goes.

The premiums go to subsidize other people's even more expensive care, like $80k helicopter rides, or $100k heart surgeries.

Re: I'm a Former Surgeon General and I Couldn't Believe My $10k Medical Bill

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post #4

Aren't you assuming that the healthcare system operates for the good of the patients? From my point of view, that doesn't seem to be the case in the U.S.

In all these cases, there is one constant: the patients get treated, and treated well. That's not the issue. It operates for the good of the patients (whereas for example, the NHS often gets criticized ...)

It's the billing afterwards that's the issue.

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