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Microsoft set to unveil its vision for AI PCs

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Re: Microsoft set to unveil its vision for AI PCs

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Post by righthand »

mrangle wrote: post #14

The "AI" isn't even good. Please don't force integrate more bad features. I don't need an unavoidable assistant that hallucinates, ignores me, and otherwise can't follow instructions. How about first making a serious adult home OS in 2024 that isn't a data mining farm, security nightmare, and enthusiastic surveillance portal. What we now have is clownish outside of MacOS, server OSs, or a lot of finagling. The lack o…

MacOS is pretty clownish, if you think Apple isn’t using your data for advertisers when you use their services on their OS I have a bridge to sell you. MacOS also has things like Gatekeeper that play off of FUD as a security feature. The fact that Apple will gladly send your iCloud backups to the feds as well I wouldn’t call it a platform that is exclusive to modern bs.

Re: Microsoft set to unveil its vision for AI PCs

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Post by firefoxd »

The current trend is butt-in driven operations.

For every action you are already familiar with, and have performed several times, copilot butts in to show you an annoying way to do it with copilot. But first create a Microsoft account.

This reminds of google plus. When Google was pushing really hard for it, if you clicked 7 times on the internet, you will find that you just created a google+ account.

Re: Microsoft set to unveil its vision for AI PCs

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Post by beoberha »

cjk2 wrote: post #12
tedajax wrote: post #8

Is anyone else just tired?

That’s exactly it. Nothing really improves my life in this fad. The promises are not matching with reality and the sacrifices made everywhere else (quality, reliability, security) is where we are paying.

I work for Microsoft and obviously my opinions are my own, but I am pretty underwhelmed by all the Copilots. Besides Teams meeting summarization, they are all pretty worthless. I’ve never understood text generation in Word or Outlook. Anything worth saying requires a ton of detail that you have to type into the prompt and then lose in the context of generation.

Re: Microsoft set to unveil its vision for AI PCs

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Post by ssahoo »

At this point, Microsoft is obsessed with AI. They think they missed the chance to be the first with internet and mobile, and trying hard to be the forefront of AI fad until it lasts. Force upselling enterprise is their old strategy and and it seems to be working in their favor. And the stock market like AI buzz too. More times you say AI, is better.

Re: Microsoft set to unveil its vision for AI PCs

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Post by mistrial9 »

pcloadletter_ wrote: post #24

I'm sure there are great applications for LLMs, really. But can we stop just putting minimal wrappers around ChatGPT and trying to cram it into everything?

> can we stop

it is difficult to persuade a person whose income depends on not caring

Re: Microsoft set to unveil its vision for AI PCs

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Post by thr0w4w4yHNabc »

ssahoo wrote: post #25

At this point, Microsoft is obsessed with AI. They think they missed the chance to be the first with internet and mobile, and trying hard to be the forefront of AI fad until it lasts. Force upselling enterprise is their old strategy and and it seems to be working in their favor. And the stock market like AI buzz too. More times you say AI, is better.

There's no need to force upsell, customers can't shut up about it.

Edit: ... Down voters, do you work in sales? Every time I open my mouth to say "well AI isn't really necessary to accomplish this" they say "but we need it anyways!!!"

Re: Microsoft set to unveil its vision for AI PCs

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Post by e-clinton »

ssahoo wrote: post #25

At this point, Microsoft is obsessed with AI. They think they missed the chance to be the first with internet and mobile, and trying hard to be the forefront of AI fad until it lasts. Force upselling enterprise is their old strategy and and it seems to be working in their favor. And the stock market like AI buzz too. More times you say AI, is better.

Whatever they’re doing, it’s crazy successful. So keep at it.

Re: Microsoft set to unveil its vision for AI PCs

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Post by pcloadletter_ »

mistrial9 wrote: post #26
pcloadletter_ wrote: post #24

I'm sure there are great applications for LLMs, really. But can we stop just putting minimal wrappers around ChatGPT and trying to cram it into everything?

> can we stop it is difficult to persuade a person whose income depends on not caring

My experience in big tech is that the product managers, engineers, and designers behind these things do actually care, but what they care about is "making impact" so they can get promoted. Right now, generative AI features == "impact."

Re: Microsoft set to unveil its vision for AI PCs

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Post by TechRemarker »

righthand wrote: post #21
mrangle wrote: post #14

The "AI" isn't even good. Please don't force integrate more bad features. I don't need an unavoidable assistant that hallucinates, ignores me, and otherwise can't follow instructions. How about first making a serious adult home OS in 2024 that isn't a data mining farm, security nightmare, and enthusiastic surveillance portal. What we now have is clownish outside of MacOS, server OSs, or a lot of finagling. The lack o…

MacOS is pretty clownish, if you think Apple isn’t using your data for advertisers when you use their services on their OS I have a bridge to sell you. MacOS also has things like Gatekeeper that play off of FUD as a security feature. The fact that Apple will gladly send your iCloud backups to the feds as well I wouldn’t call it a platform that is exclusive to modern bs.

People love to find every any any cracks in Apple. Apple notes right on their site what data they share: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/#accordion-label-5.... If Apple was lying, and sharing any additional data to advertisers, with privacy a pillar of their whole company, people who have uncovered that, and would be breaking news on every single news site. In regards to to "glady" sharing backups to the feds, I assume you mean, "when legally required" like any company, as Apple has been the one notably fighting against law enforcement when possible and fighting for encryption and releasing new options such as, "Advanced Data Protection for iCloud" for those who especially strong security needs who don't want their iCloud data accessible, but ok with the downsides of such security.
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