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Re: Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

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Deepfakes?

Honestly I was under the impression erotica is text based only. I guess not.

Oh I can see that. Given OpenAI's push for multimodal engagement with GTP4o I fully expect the erotica they want to support would be more than just text.

I do agree with you there though, I can't think of any meaningful risks of text-only erotica unless you consider the psychological impact of the person choosing to engage with it.

Re: Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

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Interesting that OpenAI has completely destroyed their reputation over the last year. For me, they've gone from an admirable company to cringe-worthy. I really think that the best outcome here is for OpenAI to collapse and get absorbed by Microsoft, where adults can continue some of the good work that is being overshadowed by ego and cult-like vibes.

> Interesting that OpenAI has completely destroyed their reputation over the last year.

No, they're still the "name brand" option for commercial LLM stuff.

Re: Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

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The difference here is that these aren't standard-issue HR/legal issues. The technology they're working on poses the gravest of dangers. This is uncharted territory, not just for the tech sector, but period. Whether the recent public back-and-forth is just internal drama/politics spilling out, or there really is a lack of gravitas around the handling of these issues within the company-- neither is good. Others have s…

OpenAI is one of the few companies that is so messed up that even the name itself is a flat out lie. From there it's censorship, lies and manipulation all the way down from leadership to product. There's no ignoring that. There's no way any organization like that can succeed IMO. Just another technology development that Musk will eventually beat everyone else at IMO. Grok 1.5 is getting pretty good and the fact that…

Is it the "least censored", or does it just censor different things?

Re: Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

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Text continuation poses "the greatest of dangers"?

While we're being overly reductionist: it's just moving bits around, what harm could that possibly do?

"AI" is one of two things depending on whether you think it's actually intelligent:

* If "AI" is actually intelligent, then it's no worse a threat than any living being known to man.

* If "AI" is not actually intelligent, then it's no worse a threat than any other computer program.

Both threat models are very thoroughly known and understood. I second parent commenter's sentiment that calling "AI" the "gravest of dangers" is a gross misrepresentation.

Re: Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

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I guess LLMs are like asymmetric warfare in the difference between training and inference.

Also, highly transportable, the models themselves are not overly massive data sets.

So like anything that can be used as a weapon, it’s potentially dangerous.

But instead of thinking about misuse and misappropriation for war, they gave us DEI bullshit.

Re: Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

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My thought about the demise of OAI’s AGI safety team is that they outlived their usefulness. It was a marketing campaign. “We’re super cool. We’re super advanced. We hope don’t make the terminator! wink wink ” “Oh no! GPT-2 is too dangerous! We better not release it! Oh wait. We did. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ “) It was never a serious thing. Sure here and in the depths of weirdo forums people whispered about the AGI that can’t be na…

> It was a marketing campaign. > it was never a serious thing

Yeppppp. This is what i was saying for weeks and weeks, if not months. The amount of people on Reddit who can not see the puzzle pieces of “OpenAI sells AI” , “AI is hyped” , “more hype = more attention = more money and media coverage” and put them together, is actually shocking. Every time i would point this out on Reddit, more often than not i would get downvoted, and the responses were basically “well actually, AGI is around the corner”

This community is honestly SO MUCH BETTER than a lot of futurist subs. I might just stick to this site for a while.

Re: Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

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I think this perspective is probably only true for 0.001% of people that actually follow Sam closely and are not optimistic about AGI and like to throw their opinions around. The superficial stuff. The rest don’t care to even know who Sam is and don’t care to assume motive. It’s very likely they’ll bounce back. I’d rather OpenAI continue to innovate and push the industry forward as they have been. Haven’t seen much o…

You're right, this isn't a view that is likely to be shared by the general public. However, I don't think the general public's view of OpenAI is much better at this point, given that their exposure is Hinton on 60 Minutes claiming that AI is going to imminently end civilization, creatives arguing that OpenAI has stolen their work, and students using their products to cheat. The only people that I do know who have his…

Among the people I've discussed recent AI with that aren't in tech, almost everyone is very uneasy about it. Some of them use it, and all of them recognize it as potentially useful, but almost everyone is more concerned than excited. Seems like surveys back my personal experience:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/08/28/growing-p...

"More concerned than excited" went from 37% in 2021 to 52% in 2023, "more excited than concerned went from 18% to 10%.

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