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Frameworks - How the hell do they "track" some of these frameworks here because the produced html/css/js could look exactly the same coming from say flask on python and jersey/jax-rs on java?
What baffles me is how this site users themselves seem to dislike PHP a lot, yet it's the most used language of these companies... So why the hate?
Almost everyone on this site, including devoted PHP devs, recognizes the fact that PHP isn't exactly an elegant and well-designed language.
The pointless "hate" however only comes from a small group of people for reasons really only known to them. But if you look outside the world of programming languages to the kind of people that loudly proclaim to hate something, I think you'll get a pretty good idea of the kind of people we're talking about.
These are not the majority of users of HN. They just feel safe here, like hooligans feel safe in a stadium filled with supporters of the same team.
What baffles me is how this site users themselves seem to dislike PHP a lot, yet it's the most used language of these companies... So why the hate?
This list looks extremely noisy to me in general.
What baffles me is how this site users themselves seem to dislike PHP a lot, yet it's the most used language of these companies... So why the hate?
People that want to get stuff done don't waste their time hating on other people's tools. Almost everyone on this site, including devoted PHP devs, recognizes the fact that PHP isn't exactly an elegant and well-designed language. The pointless "hate" however only comes from a small group of people for reasons really only known to them. But if you look outside the world of programming languages to the kind of people t…
A few notes and things I will clean up -
* The pie charts I admit appear misleading thanks for affirming this, for widgets and technologies they show the leading tool but for document based technologies like CSS/JS they don't look right. 15% of sites aren't using CSS, > 85% are, and I suspect the rest are either dead sites or some other issue. I'll look at swapping to bar graphs which some of you have mentioned might be a good alternative
* PHP usage is based on server side implementation so a server might support PHP it doesn't necessarily mean the site is written in PHP
* The source of the list is yclist.com from about 3 months ago
You can lookup individual sites at http://builtwith.com such as http://builtwith.com/lanyrd.com
Thanks again!
Gary
The pie chart indicates that only 15% of companies use CSS? That's clearly the wrong way to display this data. Very few of the technologies covered are mutually exclusive.
The pie chart indicates that only 15% of companies use CSS? That's clearly the wrong way to display this data. Very few of the technologies covered are mutually exclusive.
1. In some cases the technology choices aren't mutually exclusive, as you point out. A better representation would be a bar chart that tops out at 100%
2. Not all technologies are equally detectable. The ones that are harder get penalized, and those that or impossible to detect are penalized 100%. In categories where this is endemic, the ones that are detectable appear to be dominant when that is hardly certain. Frameworks is probably one of the most egregiously misleading of the bunch.
What baffles me is how this site users themselves seem to dislike PHP a lot, yet it's the most used language of these companies... So why the hate?
Bjarne Stroustrup
It's nice to see builtwith on the HN homepage, thanks for submitting this page Alex. I'm reading through everyone's feedback and will make changes accordingly, thanks everyone for commenting. A few notes and things I will clean up - * The pie charts I admit appear misleading thanks for affirming this, for widgets and technologies they show the leading tool but for document based technologies like CSS/JS they don't lo…
That being said, very cool that you were able to pull this together - the raw data here is very neat and it would be cool if we could even dive in more and end users could play with it in different charts, etc.