Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

Post by djbusby » Sun, May 19, 2024, 1:11 AM UTC

sroussey wrote: post #50

behnamoh wrote: post #8

Any one noticed how Sam sometimes intentionally tries to attack his own work? For example, he has said GPT-2 was very bad, GPT-3 was bad, and GPT-4 is okay. He also fed the AI doomers by talking about AGI dangers and how the world needs to watch out for a future AI catastrophe. He just gives off the vibe of someone trying to act humble but I don't know how much of it is just an act and how much is real. I've never se…

Bill Gates the day of any OS release. He was good at always saying the current version selling is the best, never a future version. And for windows 3 and windows 95, he definitely called the old versions trash. In comparison, they were.

Post by pests » Sun, May 19, 2024, 1:14 AM UTC

rpastuszak wrote: post #7

skepticATX wrote: post #2

Interesting that OpenAI has completely destroyed their reputation over the last year. For me, they've gone from an admirable company to cringe-worthy. I really think that the best outcome here is for OpenAI to collapse and get absorbed by Microsoft, where adults can continue some of the good work that is being overshadowed by ego and cult-like vibes.

Bear in mind that an average person who doesn’t frequent sites like HN might see this differently. Altman seems to be very aware of that, dropping short sound bites/bits like implying that he has no financial interest in OpenAI (congress hearings IIRC) or comparing GPT4-o to Her. It sounds like complete nonsense (if you know anything about tech) or cringe at best (Her), but what matters is quotability/catchiness beca…

Post by elisbce » Sun, May 19, 2024, 1:18 AM UTC

Post by JumpCrisscross » Sun, May 19, 2024, 1:22 AM UTC

aik wrote: post #16

skepticATX wrote: post #2

Interesting that OpenAI has completely destroyed their reputation over the last year. For me, they've gone from an admirable company to cringe-worthy. I really think that the best outcome here is for OpenAI to collapse and get absorbed by Microsoft, where adults can continue some of the good work that is being overshadowed by ego and cult-like vibes.

I think this perspective is probably only true for 0.001% of people that actually follow Sam closely and are not optimistic about AGI and like to throw their opinions around. The superficial stuff. The rest don’t care to even know who Sam is and don’t care to assume motive. It’s very likely they’ll bounce back. I’d rather OpenAI continue to innovate and push the industry forward as they have been. Haven’t seen much o…

Post by croemer » Sun, May 19, 2024, 1:36 AM UTC

sashank_1509 wrote: post #54

MVissers wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you look at compute scaling and model improvement on that compute, we’re going to get there pretty fast. Both compute, architecture and cost matter, and those have been improving like crazy. I don’t know about you, but I didn’t expect GPT-4o to come out at half the price one year later, with real-time voice, image and text. There is zero sign of slowing, Nvidia keeps building beefier GPUs specialized in LLMs, the…

AGI seems like a stretch when none of the LLM’s right now can solve the prompt: “ Write a sentence that has an odd number of words, with the third word being "keyboard", the last word being "anyway", the next-to-last word being a number, and the first word being a palindrome “ Do we have to add these examples to the dataset now, so that they can solve this? Then maybe we find another prompt and add that too, as a hum…