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Re: Ilya Sutskever: “If you learn all of these, you’ll know 90% of what matters”

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Post by smeej »

barfbagginus wrote: post #92
smeej wrote: post #58

How long does it take to learn the prerequisites to learn these if you don't already have a CS background? Reading through the list, I can barely parse half the titles due to acronyms and terms I've never seen before. Would I be able to figure them out along the way? Or is there a body of knowledge this is assuming I should already have? (This isn't a criticism of the list, or even the idea of presenting such a list…

1. Bibliography Blues The papers have bibliographies with citations in text. The knowledge you need to read a given paper usually lies within 3 degrees of bibliographical separation. You can also use reverse citation search on Google scholar to find newer works that cite a given work. This can uncover a review or textbook, which often makes the concept much simpler to digest. And it can be a more advanced approach wh…

Wow! I'm glad there are people like you out there to be excited about it! I glazed over before I even got to the end of your comment, with the dazzled sort of awestruck glaze where I realize I will never do even a tiny fraction of the work required to know things about this topic you probably take totally for granted.

Thanks for taking the time to expose me to your enthusiasm!

Re: Ilya Sutskever: “If you learn all of these, you’ll know 90% of what matters”

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Post by sage76 »

sheepdestroyer wrote: post #21
klunger wrote: post #15

The headline belies the scope of this task. If you click in to see what these are: - one is a full course in convolutional neural networks https://cs231n.github.io/ - one is a 500 page text book https://www.lirmm.fr/~ashen/kolmbook-eng-scan.pdf - another one is an 80 page text book (?) https://arxiv.org/pdf/math/0406077 and so on. I would guess it is possible to go through this list if you make it your full time job…

Reportedly, Carmack did it an a week by locking himself in an hotel room

Must be a hell of a hotel room, I should visit.

Re: Ilya Sutskever: “If you learn all of these, you’ll know 90% of what matters”

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Post by soulofmischief »

jb1991 wrote: post #97
soulofmischief wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not moving goalposts. The commenter tried to assert that only someone without "any other responsibilities" gets to spend a week learning something. It doesn't have to be in a hotel room. It doesn't have to be a week. It can be two, three, four weeks. Those are all implementation details. The negative sentiment itself is what I addressed. Everyone fortunate enough to have internet access, a computer and a function…

> The commenter tried to assert that only someone without "any other responsibilities" gets to spend a week learning something. That's what I mean -- you didn't read the parents carefully. The commenter (me) made that reply to this: > Carmack did it an a week by locking himself in an hotel room Everyone can and should spend time learning, but the little point being made was that locking yourself in a hotel room is no…

Because the hotel is an implementation detail.

Re: Ilya Sutskever: “If you learn all of these, you’ll know 90% of what matters”

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Post by GaryNumanVevo »

gessha wrote: post #75

What people forget is without a proper, tangible goal, no matter how many core or interesting papers you read, you will still remember nothing. At most you will be able to make armchair ML researcher comments on an online forum.

I have a career in ML research and I use most of my knowledge to be an armchair ML researcher!

Re: Ilya Sutskever: “If you learn all of these, you’ll know 90% of what matters”

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Post by tarsinge »

soulofmischief wrote: post #90
giantg2 wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"You weren't going to be taking care of any other responsibilities during your normal 9-5 hours, so that should have no bearing on the week you take off;" Have you ever been married, had kids, etc? Pretty much any time I take off of work, it involves catching up on projects, chores, or parental responsibilities during the day. It seems the vast majority of people I've spoken to tell of similar situations.

Well, I have specifically avoided having kids at this stage in my life so that I may climb out of the poverty class first. I'm one abortion deep already. I was not as fortunate as 99% of the people in this little isolated corner of the internet. I was homeless from 16 to my early 20s. I suffer from multiple traumas, both physical and mental. I have ADHD and bipolar disorder. I've had sciatica, degenerative disc disea…

I'm sorry you had to go through all of this. I think your bias is your responsibility is 100% financial so is aligned with always spending more time for your career. For most people financial/career responsibility is only a part, ignoring the rest is as impossible as you putting your career aside.

Re: Ilya Sutskever: “If you learn all of these, you’ll know 90% of what matters”

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Post by soulofmischief »

tarsinge wrote: post #106
soulofmischief wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I have specifically avoided having kids at this stage in my life so that I may climb out of the poverty class first. I'm one abortion deep already. I was not as fortunate as 99% of the people in this little isolated corner of the internet. I was homeless from 16 to my early 20s. I suffer from multiple traumas, both physical and mental. I have ADHD and bipolar disorder. I've had sciatica, degenerative disc disea…

I'm sorry you had to go through all of this. I think your bias is your responsibility is 100% financial so is aligned with always spending more time for your career. For most people financial/career responsibility is only a part, ignoring the rest is as impossible as you putting your career aside.

That's a good point. I do experience the boundaries, I spent the majority of the last 8 years alone and was solely focused on work and hobbies. It was a very productive time for me. Now that I'm in a longer-term relationship again, my productivity has seen a major reduction. It's exacerbated by the fact that I am extremely productivity-focused, but my significant other wants to relax in her free time.

I'm still learning where I should set boundaries on both sides of the field, and this will probably be something I continue to struggle with for some time.

Re: Ilya Sutskever: “If you learn all of these, you’ll know 90% of what matters”

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Post by jb1991 »

soulofmischief wrote: post #103
jb1991 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The commenter tried to assert that only someone without "any other responsibilities" gets to spend a week learning something. That's what I mean -- you didn't read the parents carefully. The commenter (me) made that reply to this: > Carmack did it an a week by locking himself in an hotel room Everyone can and should spend time learning, but the little point being made was that locking yourself in a hotel room is no…

Because the hotel is an implementation detail.

Spoken like someone without common life responsibilities.

Re: Ilya Sutskever: “If you learn all of these, you’ll know 90% of what matters”

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Post by soulofmischief »

jb1991 wrote: post #108
soulofmischief wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the hotel is an implementation detail.

Spoken like someone without common life responsibilities.

Spoken like someone who casts judgement and makes assumptions before considering that different people have different priorities.

It's downright silly to claim that I have no life responsibilities because I prioritize setting aside time for self-growth and encourage others to do the same.

Open your mind a little bit and ponder why you feel compelled to have such a negative and dismissive attitude about this.

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