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Re: OpenProject – open-source project management software

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Post by input_sh »

nodesocket wrote: post #10

I typically prefer the simplicity of GitHub issues, mixed with Markdown documentation in the source tree. What are some advantages of using a product like OpenProject?

tl;dr: HR is never gonna use GitHub.

Project management tools are just a necessary skill even for non-devs, which leaves any large enough project with only two options:

1. Have the devs and non-devs use completely different systems.

2. Have both use the exact same tool, even if that absolutely sucks for the devs.

The second one is bad, the first one is worse. It by definition creates an unnecessary complication in the flow of information, requiring serious effort to overcome. That's why most of us have horror stories about Jira, Asana, and the likes. The hatred of that one particular tool we happen to be using right now unites us all. Whichever tool you're currently using is always the worst one, right until the moment you're forced into using a different one.

So, you as an individual might want to put up with one of these horrible options you're already familiar with, or you might use something you actually enjoy. But beware: if you go down the more enjoyable path, you are perpetually gonna be reminded it's not the "real deal". GitHub can't do everything a proper tool can, and you're gonna miss having those "advanced" options at some point, even if you hate to admit that to yourself.

Then again, I might just be projecting.

Re: OpenProject – open-source project management software

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Post by benrutter »

input_sh wrote: post #14
j45 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenProject is generally open source. Some key features exist outside of the open source license. Their hosted options though, seem reasonably priced.

I think every open source projects that has ever aimed to have >10 employees has taken that same route at some point: GitLab, Matomo, WordPress, Redis, MySQL, nginx, HAProxy... all incredibly useful for in most use cases completely free, but if you try to really rely on them (on a large enough scale), you will hit that paywall at some point and feel forced to pay up. If the goal is to have In summary, I personally be…

I agree with your main point, but I can't resist pointing out some huge exceptions since there are some mammoth fully open projects like:

- The linux kernel

- Languages (Rust, Python)

- Airflow

- Libre Office

Either way, I think the important thing is knowing why you want something to be open source (do you want to self host? Own your data? Fix bugs? Do you have doubts that the developing company will last long?) Some of those will work great with an open core model, others won't. I think if Linux was "open core" it wouldn't get used at all, that's a lot less true of something like libre office.

Re: OpenProject – open-source project management software

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Post by bongodongobob »

nodesocket wrote: post #10

I typically prefer the simplicity of GitHub issues, mixed with Markdown documentation in the source tree. What are some advantages of using a product like OpenProject?

You can use it for the 95% of other types of projects that are not software related, I'm guessing.

Re: OpenProject – open-source project management software

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Post by simantel »

not_your_mentat wrote: post #19

I'm still waiting for an open-source self hostable alternative to Basecamp. Simple lists and hill charts. Has anyone run across something like this?

Do any of these fit the bill?

Plane: https://plane.so/

Kanboard: https://kanboard.org/

Taiga: https://taiga.io/

Redmine (which OpenProject is a fork of): https://www.redmine.org/

Teambox: https://www.teambox.com/

GitLab (more than just issues): https://about.gitlab.com/

Re: OpenProject – open-source project management software

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Post by onthecanposting »

nodesocket wrote: post #10

I typically prefer the simplicity of GitHub issues, mixed with Markdown documentation in the source tree. What are some advantages of using a product like OpenProject?

Some people manage projects that aren't software at all. Git has little utility for construction documents, and big construction design projects may involve interdisciplinary teams of dozens of people of widely varying cost and availability.

Re: OpenProject – open-source project management software

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Post by [deleted] »

input_sh wrote: post #14
j45 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenProject is generally open source. Some key features exist outside of the open source license. Their hosted options though, seem reasonably priced.

I think every open source projects that has ever aimed to have >10 employees has taken that same route at some point: GitLab, Matomo, WordPress, Redis, MySQL, nginx, HAProxy... all incredibly useful for in most use cases completely free, but if you try to really rely on them (on a large enough scale), you will hit that paywall at some point and feel forced to pay up. If the goal is to have In summary, I personally be…

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Re: OpenProject – open-source project management software

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Post by nisten »

Getting the wrong vibes from the dark patterns on this site.

I click on github.. it doesn't open github... had to look in the comments here. I find repo here... the front end is some ancient angular app with 3 year old security vulnerabilities.

I try to find some kind of demo of the product.. and end up in a sales funnel to pay 500$

As a first impression this does not look like a trustworthy opensomething .org product, even though it's probably fine.

Just my opinion

Re: OpenProject – open-source project management software

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Post by j45 »

PeterZaitsev wrote: post #20
j45 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenProject is generally open source. Some key features exist outside of the open source license. Their hosted options though, seem reasonably priced.

The devil in such case is in details. Is Open Source version actually useful or is it really there just for marketing purpose ? I think this is where how large portion of users are running free vs paid version is a good indication.

It's probably worth first thinking about your first year of interaction with Open Source, and if the world might have been different before you first experienced it.

Of course there's projects in open source where it's only free if your time is worthless. This means lots of manual figuring it out as some sort of badge of accomplishment, intentional, or not.

Then you move towards more user friendly software, and more and more towards easy to install.

There is a type of open source that is a funded startup, where open source is used as a way to attract paying customers, and not really be originating as open source. There's been lots about this out there.

The devil is pretty simple to see. if a new project reaches the point of adoption and quickly moves or puts core features into a paid tier, it was meant to use free community attention and labour and not give back more labour. At this point a lot of meaningful forks can occur.

Free vs paid open source is the major difference that I'm speaking from. There was a time, not too long ago where this wasn't the norm. I agree large corporations should pay for and support open source, because with out it much of what we have and use today wouldn't be as possible, as quickly.

Re: OpenProject – open-source project management software

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Post by bebop »

not_your_mentat wrote: post #19

I'm still waiting for an open-source self hostable alternative to Basecamp. Simple lists and hill charts. Has anyone run across something like this?

I have been building this on and off for a number of years. Mostly focused on the document management side of things: https://github.com/bgroff/kala-app
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