tldr: work 18 hours, sleep 6 hours
There seems to be confusion in replies, but this math seems correct to me (assuming I understood the article correctly):
18 + (18/3) = 24Third Time: a better way to work (2022)
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Re: Third Time: a better way to work (2022)
#42When most of the work is to figure out what the other party wants and what can I take, productivity and motivation practically go down to zero. I need to get into some lower level programming job or a tool programming job.
Welcome to the software development world! Software developing is so much more than web programming, oh boy!
I'm actually a DE but with this market it's difficult to transfer to anything else. I'll probably just switch jobs frequently and keep the freshness, grit for 10 years and get the hell of the indistry.
Re: Third Time: a better way to work (2022)
#43It’s really more important to have your own alone time.
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#44Yeah. Treat yourself like a robot. What can go wrong... :)
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#45I might find this ultra-productivity useful if it was at a business or side-project I owned or ran, where I have a large stake in the outcomes and there’s not enough people to do everything. But, if working for a medium to large-sized company, the ROI on this type of productivity just isn’t there. I’m not saying don’t be professional and work hard and do your job, but in my experience if you race ahead because of some productivity hack you often end up either completing something that has changed from how you did it by the time it is needed, or no one really notices that you’re cranking out extra tasks all the time. I guess I could see a benefit if you use this to work smarter not harder and automate out a lot of mundane drudgery in your day-to-day.
Re: Third Time: a better way to work (2022)
#46After reading the title I was hoping to find something about third time, same as third space: time that's neither work nor rest. That would be something!
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#47I love this so much that I actually made a gamified version of it a few months ago! https://focumon.com/about
Re: Third Time: a better way to work (2022)
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
you got the math wrong. that's a quarter break it's 12 hours of work and 8 hours of sleep. and suddenly it all makes sense. while your mind takes a break from work, your body isn't, and that's why it needs those 8 hours of sleep.
actually, it's 16 work and 8 sleep
facepalm
yes of course!
scrambles off to look for a brown paper bag
Re: Third Time: a better way to work (2022)
#49This reads like a skit.
Divide your time in communication and focus work. After 3 units of work, do 1 unit of communication. Or any other ratio.
Work from home for x days l, then work at the office for y days.
Work for five units of time, then don't work for two units of time. We can call it week and weekend.
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#50i like the idea of breaktime accumulating based on the time worked. it makes sense. it also means that after an 8 hour work day i deserve to sit down in the evening and relax for an hour or two without feeling guilty. however i disagree that an interruption at the door, or going out for errands counts as break time. it depends on what exactly happens, but dealing with an interruption, or driving a car, paying attenti…
>however i disagree that an interruption at the door, or going out for errands counts as break time.
I think there's two ways to look at this:
1) The breaks are relative to the work. If you're doing a given "job" for all the tasks that entails, anything you're doing that isn't the "job" should be included in the break calculations. Certainly this is how any employer would treat the situation. It doesn't matter that taking your car to the mechanic isn't fun, it's also not part of your job so your employer is going to count it as PTO. Likewise, when allocating your own time to a given job, you should view it the same way.
That certainly makes quite a bit of sense to me. If I'm dreading some contract work, but trying to manage my schedule, allowing myself to procrastinate by choosing an even less worse task (like scrubbing the toilet, or doing yard work) and then also taking additional pleasure breaks is going to drastically reduce the time I'm spending getting paid, and if I'm trying to manage my time that's probably not a good thing.
2) Some people (myself included) can definitely get a "break" from work, even if they're doing a chore. In fact, I did this just last week. I'd spent the entire day beating my head against a task that just wasn't going right. At a certain point, I needed a break but I knew if I hung around I'd keep trying to come back to the task. So I went out and did the grocery shopping for the week instead. That took me away from the task and out of the mindset of being focused on it long enough to come back and tackle things fresh. Was it truly a break in that I got to unwind and relax? Not really. But it was a break in that it served the purposed to give me an escape from the work I was bogged down in that was frustrating me.
Whether something is a break or not in this view is less about "work" vs "leisure" and more your own mental state. If I switch off doing some work task to spend some time on my skunkworks project I'm doing at work, if that re-charges me and gives me the mental capacity to go back to the real work I'm doing, that could be just as much of a "break" as reading a book, even if I was still doing stuff that was for "work".