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Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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Post by DeathArrow »

lukas099 wrote: post #51
chii wrote: post #42

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> I think HN is far less accessible than Reddit. depends on what you mean by accessible - i assume you don't mean accessibility (for blind/disabled people), but ease of access. HN is way more easily accessed by someone. You are not nagged by a dialog to get you to download the mobile app. HN has way less clutter in their UX (even compared to old.reddit.com). HN has fewer call to action in the UX to do things like sub…

I think they mean that the content is less accessible, as in having less mass appeal

Compared to specialized sub reddits, HN is huge. I find the content to be generally extremely accessible. Of course, there are some specialized subjects and links to research papers few will understand. But even for those, if you ask nicely, there will be a kind soul who will try to explain.

Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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Post by csomar »

throwaway4good wrote: post #3

I believe the site is: http://okjike.com/ (?) I tried signing up - couldn’t get pass the sms verification - I am in some European country.

I signed up with a US number; however, it doesn't seem like they support any language beside Mandarin?

Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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Post by erremerre »

prmoustache wrote: post #120
swozey wrote: post #97

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I really dislike forums nowadays but I'm part of a /r/$car subreddit along with the $carforum.com and there's no comparison between using reddit vs the forum for quality data and not losing things to the ether. There are so many subreddits where great posts get lost, subreddits that don't allow commenting on old posts, being notified when old posts are updated, things like that. $Carforum has tags I can follow, just…

I only once tried to participate to a subreddit /r/instax. I could leave comment but I could not post to ask a technical question or share my own instax shots. My posts were just commented by a bot saying they were moved to a temporarily queue waiting for approval and later were deleted. No communication about rules that would apply, nor the reasons of the deletion. I just never bothered anymore. To me reddit is pret…

I have a similar experience in the 3ds subreddit asking about tje hinge. My post got deleted saying that my answer was in the wiki. It wasn't.

I tried to ask the same in the gbatemp. This time my post was just ignored by the community, which I guess is better than being deleted immediately.

3ds Discord community and iFixit communities did interacted with me.

There are tought times if you want to be part of a community that is more than memes.

Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

krapp wrote: post #116
ineedaj0b wrote: post #111

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i think the overton window is quite large for ideas you can discuss on hn unlike reddit. you can go anywhere really but if your bot-ing or selling something you get swatted. also overtly political takes get nuked but it's both sides

You can't even make a joke on HN without an entire subthread being created to chastise you for it. Most political stories get flagged by default because they tend to degenerate into flamewars, to say nothing of any subject even tangentially related to race, gender, religion, physics or medicine, when the bigots and cranks come out of their crawlspaces. And plenty of people flag any non "technical" subject because the…

FWIW I agree with almost everything you said, but I think there's a few things that HN has that Reddit doesn't. Reddit's larger American user base tends to dominate most subs with American perspectives but HN seems to have a decently large EU population, especially during EU daytime. Reddit also has a pretty strong anti-capitalist bias in most medium sized subreddits that HN doesn't have, and I perceive that Reddit's average user age is in university while HN's average user age is probably approaching middle age (which probably contributes to the political differences.) I generally think your criticism is spot on.

Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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Post by elric »

imp0cat wrote: post #106
elric wrote: post #95

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If it weren't such an insanely difficult language to learn, it might be interesting to be part of Chinese tech discussions.

The alphabet may be hard, but grammar is (supposedly) quite easy, compared to eg. Japanese.

I didn't find Japanese grammar to be hard, reading and writing is much harder, what with the different readings of many kanji. I found French and German grammar much harder to learn.

Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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Post by globular-toast »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #56
instagraham wrote: post #4

Every guild or community should have a high quality discussion forum like hackernews. But assuming you can translate the learnings from Hackernews to another platform, how exactly would you ensure high quality?

As others have pointed out, the answer is moderation. High quality, diligent moderation. Reddit is the ultimate proof of this. A highly moderated, focused subreddit can be a wonderful place. A loosely moderated subreddit quickly devolves into memes and lowest common denominator posts, which is totally fine for specific subjects, or even meme-based subreddits for a given topic. If you want quality, you have to invest…

Unfortunately reddit-style "moderation" causes other problems. In particular it creates the worst kind of echo chambers. I put moderation in quotes because on reddit they are more like tyrannical overlords. Places like HN and traditional fora work much better.

Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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Post by FrontierProject »

swayvil wrote: post #102
rndmize wrote: post #82

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Honestly, I just don't get this view - moderation provides clear, obvious value. You know what, we can have an experiment. I'll provide a list of things that are handled by moderation, and you pick which ones you think should be moderated. * Spam * CSAM * Gore * Porn * Doxxing * Threats * Libel * Personal attacks * Racism/other 'isms' * Flamebait/ragebait * Advertisements * Insults * Duplicates * Off-topic * Low-effo…

All of those require the interpretation and goodwill of an authority that I do not trust (and certainly does not express my own will as well as I can do it myself). Why do you trust this authority?

Tell me you've never used a platform without bot moderation without telling me you've never used a platform without bot moderation.

Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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Post by BlockerBrews »

instagraham wrote: post #4

Every guild or community should have a high quality discussion forum like hackernews. But assuming you can translate the learnings from Hackernews to another platform, how exactly would you ensure high quality?

I would a list to see a list of high quality discussion forums for various communities.
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