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OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?
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#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
The superalignment team was not focused on that kind of “safety” AFAIK. According to the blog post announcing the team, https://openai.com/index/introducing-superalignment/ > Superintelligence will be the most impactful technology humanity has ever invented, and could help us solve many of the world’s most important problems. But the vast power of superintelligence could also be very dangerous, and could lead to the…
That doesn't really contradict what the other poster said. They're calling for regulation (digging a moat) to ensure systems are "safe" and "aligned" while ignoring that humans are not aligned, so these systems obviously cannot be aligned with humans; they can only be aligned with their owners (i.e. them, not you).
Humans are not aligned with humans.
This is the most concise takedown of that particular branch of nonsense that I’ve seen so far.
Do we want woke AI, X brand fash-pilled AI, CCPBot, or Emirates Bot? The possibilities are endless.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
>To really stress this: OpenAI's still-present cofounder shared yesterday on a podcast that they expect AGI in ~2 years and ASI (superpassing human intelligence) by end of the decade. Link? Is the ~2 year timeline a common estimate in the field?
We can't even get self-driving down in 2 years, we're nowhere near reaching general AI. AI experts who aren't riding the hype train and getting high off of its fumes acknowledge that true AI is something we'll likely not see in our lifetimes.
Can you give some examples of experts saying we won't see it in our lifetime?
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
To really stress this: OpenAI's still-present cofounder shared yesterday on a podcast that they expect AGI in ~2 years and ASI (superpassing human intelligence) by end of the decade. What's his track record on promises/predictions of this sort? I wasn't paying attention until pretty recently.
As a child I used to watch a TV programme called Tomorrows World. On it they predicted these very same things in similar timeframes. That programme aired in the 1980's. Other than vested promises is there much to indicate it's close at all? Empty promises aside there isn't really any indication of that being likely at all.
In the early 1980's we were just coming out of the first AI winter and everyone was getting optimistic again.
I suspect there will be at least continued commercial use of the current tech, though I still suspect this crop is another dead end in the hunt for AGI.
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#145This is how you know you're dealing with an evil tyrant.
And he claims to have made his fortune by just helping people and not expecting anything in return. Well, the reality here is that was a lie.
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#146What a lot of people seem to be missing here is that RSUs are usually double-trigger for private companies. Vested shares are not yours. They are just an entitlement for you to be distributed common stock by the company. You don't own any real stock until those RSUs are released (typically from a liquidity event like an IPO). Companies can cancel your vested equity for any reason. Read your employment contract carefu…
Yes, they can choose not to renew and IANAL, but I'm fairly certain there has to be a valid reason to cancel vested equity within the 7 year time frame, i.e. firing for cause. I don't think a right to shares within the period can be capriciously taken away. You have a contract. The terms matter.
Re: OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?
#147What a lot of people seem to be missing here is that RSUs are usually double-trigger for private companies. Vested shares are not yours. They are just an entitlement for you to be distributed common stock by the company. You don't own any real stock until those RSUs are released (typically from a liquidity event like an IPO). Companies can cancel your vested equity for any reason. Read your employment contract carefu…
> if 7 years have elapsed since they were granted, they are now worthless
Once vested, RSUs are the same as regular stock purchased through the market. The company cannot claw them back, nor do they "expire".
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not. The earlier tweets explain: the initial agreement says the employee must sign a "general release" or forfeit the equity, and then the general release they are asked to sign includes a lifetime no-criticism clause.
ITT: a bunch of laymen thinking their 2 second proposal will outlawyer the team of lawyers who drafted these.
I am a lawyer. This is not just a general release, and I have no idea how OpenAI's lawyers expect this to be legal.
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#149Unfortunately this is actually pretty common in Wall St, where they leverage your multiple years of clawback-able shares to make you sign non-disparagement clauses.
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#150It's time to find a lawyer. I'm not one but there's an intersection with California SB 331, also known as “The Silenced No More Act”. while it is focused more on sexual harrasment, it's not limited to that, and these contracts may run afoul of that. https://silencednomore.org/the-silenced-no-more-act
Definitely an interesting way to expand existing legislation vs having a new piece of legislation altogether.