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Post by wolverine876 »

muditsahni wrote: post #156
constantcrying wrote: post #104

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There is exactly nothing about defacing public infrastructure which elicits the tiniest spark of "admiration" or "interest" in me. If you want to live out your "artistic ambitions" do it somewhere away from public property.

It’s always a struggle for me to accept that many people actually like graffiti. Maybe graffiti can add flavour to a city if it’s really drab and ugly (although I’m not too sure about this), but it only defiles cities which are aesthetically pleasing and beautiful. The technicality of graffiti has little to do with its appeal or it’s appropriateness. Something can be hard to make but still be garbage and/or misplaced…

> It’s always a struggle for me to accept that many people actually like graffiti.

It's a struggle for everyone to accept different perspectives on art and aesthetics, but we need to accept that others' perspectives exist and are as legitimate as our own.

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Post by wolverine876 »

rep_lodsb wrote: post #302
helboi4 wrote: post #241

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They definitely have a very hyper-capitalist definition of violence. It's sort of pathetic how much people somehow care about the property of the ruling classes that they will never own.

As opposed to people who define words written on the internet and not even directed at a specific person as "violence"?

What are you referring to? I don't see that in this discussion.

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Post by wolverine876 »

fragmede wrote: post #122
doctor_eval wrote: post #114

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Are graffiti artists not part of the public? What makes a billboard, for example, more legitimate than graffiti?

consent. same as the difference between a shower and getting caught out in the rain

The kids painting street art have no power to consent or not consent to anything. If they had access to art supplies, a loft, and a gallery, they'd probably use them.

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

rangestransform wrote: post #405
_tk_ wrote: post #372

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Like this: https://youtu.be/vg5OrytF_a0?t=65 TL;DW: Basically, the conductor alerts the police and stops the train, once they realize that the train is being decorated. If they started moving forward, it could seriously endanger the graffiti sprayers. So that's really the best course of action here.

If one graffiti artist delays my train for one minute, that’s one minute too many

ego much? if they get hurt, train is delayed, if they don't get hurt, train is delayed. you cannot win.

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Post by aloe_falsa »

helboi4 wrote: post #260
kalaksi wrote: post #257

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Most graffitis I've seen are on empty walls or buildings with no ads. Brick wall looks way better without them. And to me it looks more like it's the graffiti maker that thinks that they own the wall and can choose what should be on it.

Property that is used by the public should be owned by the public. By that logic, graffiti artists as regular people who use public infrastructure in the area should as much right to paint on the wall as you do to paint the wall in your house. And you can paint over it if you hate it so much. But its all down to the community. It should not be a crime enforced by a ruling class who nominally owns the wall but doesn't…

> Property that is used by the public should be owned by the public.

Not sure why that follows, or how it would avoid the tragedy of the commons, or why we should act as if that’s already the case.

That all aside, how would you feel about people reclaiming public space, parks and public transportation, by blasting loud music in there?

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Post by mithr »

_tk_ wrote: post #372
sib wrote: post #369

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I'm confused - how do the vandals stop the train?

Like this: https://youtu.be/vg5OrytF_a0?t=65 TL;DW: Basically, the conductor alerts the police and stops the train, once they realize that the train is being decorated. If they started moving forward, it could seriously endanger the graffiti sprayers. So that's really the best course of action here.

Whoa, TIL that suspension railways exist!

My first thought after seeing the end of the video was "why is this video flipped?" until I realized that it was only the train that was "upside down".

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Post by lukan »

radlad wrote: post #400
lukan wrote: post #352

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Yes, because rubber and asphalt do not really have a smooth surface unlike polished steel. So all the little bumbs give your car grip, but also cause friction, which is noise. One of the reasons, why trains are better suited in theory for long distance transport, than trucks. Little friction, so more energy efficient.

Friction produces heat, not sound...

Both. What are the rapidly heated molecules going to do? Create turbulence in the air. That is sound.

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Post by vdsk »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #425
rangestransform wrote: post #405

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If one graffiti artist delays my train for one minute, that’s one minute too many

ego much? if they get hurt, train is delayed, if they don't get hurt, train is delayed. you cannot win.

Well, you might assume that they only get hurt once. Maybe it would make their co-conspirators re-evaluate their actions too...

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Post by joquarky »

constantcrying wrote: post #133
petre wrote: post #127

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>Are you an art major to be able to judge objectively? There is precisely nothing about "being an art major" that gives you any more or less right to an opinion. Especially if you actually had read anything about current philosophy of art you would realize how dumb that sounds in this context. Since "postmodern" theories of art focus on the inner expression of the artist, contrasted with the subjective experience of…

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