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This Is the Gyro-Stabilized, Two-Wheeled Future of Transportation

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Re: This Is the Gyro-Stabilized, Two-Wheeled Future of Transportation

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How much force would it take to knock the C1 on its side? According to Lit, a small elephant would have to hit it broadside to put the C1 on the ground. So… a car hitting the side then?

To be fair, the big issue with current two-wheeled vehicles is hardly their bad safety against side collisions.

There's a (different) reason medical personnel refer to them as "donorcycles"...

Re: This Is the Gyro-Stabilized, Two-Wheeled Future of Transportation

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All the seating and cargo capacity of a motorcycle, with the visibility of a car! There's no way in hell I'd split lanes on that thing; when I'm on my motorcycle, I have no obstructions and can see all around me, and definitely know where the edges of my bike are. This looks like a low-slung claustrophobic nightmare.

Even if it is a very technically cool thing.

Re: This Is the Gyro-Stabilized, Two-Wheeled Future of Transportation

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Remember the last two-wheeled, gyro-stabilized future of transportation? The one that was largely a commercial flop, and which the company president ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Heselden ) _drove off a cliff_.

This was what I thought they were talking about when I saw the headline. I assumed this was an amused look back on the good ol' days. I never did understand why anyone ever thought the Segway would revolutionize anything. I don't see the big advantage, and - frankly - you look downright ridiculous riding it. And yes - I did get to ride it. It's kind of cool for the novelty factor, but I fail to see any incredible adv…

One place I've seen them where I thought they really made sense were in large parks where security guards ride around on them, able to cover a lot of ground using the walking paths.

Re: This Is the Gyro-Stabilized, Two-Wheeled Future of Transportation

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post #4

If they added two more wheels instead of the gyros, they'd get passive stabilization and lower cost. They'd also get more room for a larger battery and cargo or passengers. And since roads and parking lots are already designed for 4-wheel vehicles, the extra width wouldn't be much of a disadvantage.

As a city car I'm impressed by the Renault Twizy (it's a 4 wheel bike). Okay, so the power output and range are much lower but for shorter commutes when you can charge overnight it seems to make a lot of sense. Relatively cheap too, although you do have to factor in the cost of leasing the battery pack. http://www.renault.co.uk/cars/model/twizy/product.aspx

Re: This Is the Gyro-Stabilized, Two-Wheeled Future of Transportation

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post #8

Will this need redundant gyros? Otherwise isn't it too risky if one blows out while you are driving?

I would hope that in case of a gyro failure the computer would stop listening to the gyros, display a warning light on the dashboard, and you'd be able to bring it to a stop based on the same principles that keep a normal bike upright. You might have to dump it on its side when it comes to a stop, but you shouldn't have to spin off.

The dangers of that are roughly similar to a blowout in a normal car, momentary but nearly complete loss of control.

Re: This Is the Gyro-Stabilized, Two-Wheeled Future of Transportation

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post #7

Remember the last two-wheeled, gyro-stabilized future of transportation? The one that was largely a commercial flop, and which the company president ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Heselden ) _drove off a cliff_.

Worth clarifying that he didn't drive off a cliff in an act of suicide- it was an accident.

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Re: This Is the Gyro-Stabilized, Two-Wheeled Future of Transportation

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Reminds me of the BMW C1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_C1

And will be killed for the same reason. Country A will insist that it's a motorbike, require you to wear a helmet and have an enhanced heavy bike licence (because of it's top speed) Country B will insist that it's a car and require seatbelts, airbags etc. Country C will only allow electric bikes that have a top speed of 15m/h

Country C will only allow electric bikes that have a top speed of 15m/h

You certainly mean km/h.

Re: This Is the Gyro-Stabilized, Two-Wheeled Future of Transportation

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post #8

Will this need redundant gyros? Otherwise isn't it too risky if one blows out while you are driving?

The article says it has 2 gyros. In the test run one wasn't working so they had to test it on just one, and it seemed to work.

Re: This Is the Gyro-Stabilized, Two-Wheeled Future of Transportation

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post #32

All the seating and cargo capacity of a motorcycle, with the visibility of a car! There's no way in hell I'd split lanes on that thing; when I'm on my motorcycle, I have no obstructions and can see all around me, and definitely know where the edges of my bike are. This looks like a low-slung claustrophobic nightmare. Even if it is a very technically cool thing.

Maybe you can split two lanes occupied by other similar vehicles.

Re: This Is the Gyro-Stabilized, Two-Wheeled Future of Transportation

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The segway does what it's supposed to do. I think it has it's useful niche. It was marketed as a replacement for all transportation, but that is silly because only because of the cost.

Speaking of cost, this vehicle will start for ~$24,000. I mean, I'd buy it for... maybe $5000ish, if I were feeling particularly spendy?

They did mention that rev two would be around $16,000, assuming they're still in business. That's getting closer to a realistic price relative to competing products. Keep in mind that this is competing with commuter cars, not motorcycles.

You can also deduct the cost of fuel over the vehicle's lifetime. For someone commuting one hour each way to work five days a week, the cost of gas for a big car can exceed $200/month, $2400/year, or $12,000 over the course of five years. That makes the up-front price seem quite a bit more competitive with gas-powered alternatives.

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