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What makes you trust Opera any more already? They're already quite capable of logging every domain you visit, via the fraud prevention mechanism (Enabled by default). Whether Opera are recording this I don't know, but you can probably be quite certain that Facebook will, if they acquire it.

At least they say that they don't log it. Google's Chrome does send and log every website you visit.

Citation?

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> introducing features no existing browsers had Please, elaborate. The only feature I know is exclusive to Chrome is full page translation (since they own Google Translate it makes sense). What else?

omnibox

I'll use this page as reference for omnibox - http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ans... .

Opera has custom inline searches. I type in the address bar "eng cacophony" and I am being redirected here www.thefreedictionary.com/cacophony . "w Opera browser features" takes me to the wikipedia page. I can define how many custom keywords as I please. Again, long before Chrome existed.

I could do this in the year 2000.

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I still don't see the value in it. It made sense when Google did it. Chrome came and shook things up introducing features no existing browsers had and placing an emphasis on JavaScript speed. This was critical for Google as a number of its apps make heavy use of it. I don't use Chrome anymore, I switched back to Firefox but its undeniable that it had a massive impact on the speed of browser development and probably t…

> introducing features no existing browsers had Please, elaborate. The only feature I know is exclusive to Chrome is full page translation (since they own Google Translate it makes sense). What else?

Fast JS (it took Firefox forever to catch up) and SPDY.

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Re Opera Mini and them having no competition in proxying browsers: Nokia's S40 Browser actually does proxying these days. This was released as a beta in late 2010, and is now the default in all S40 phones. ( http://betalabs.nokia.com/apps/nokia-browser-for-series-40-b... ) It's not a proper competitor of course, as one cannot install it to phones by other manufacturers, but it does still cover a pretty big chunk of t…

There's a large quality gap between's Nokia browser and Opera Mini. Nokia isn't famous for their browser, after all.

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Gecko will NEVER render on a feature phone. The Mozilla team has repeated this statement again and again.

A year ago feature phones were being released with 1GHz processors [1]. I wouldn't say never. [1] http://www.gsmarena.com/1ghz_s40based_nokia_c3015_pictures_s...

What OS do they run? It's hard to imagine porting to another OS with insanely tiny marketshare and weird APIs. What is the app publishing ecosystem on these phones?

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"Installable web apps". The author doesn't seem to be up to speed. Opera has announced widget support will be dropped, along with Unite applications. http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2012/04/24/increased-fo... I guess this decision could be reversed if Facebook buys Opera.

Unite was awesome. The problem is hardly anyone used Opera. A company like Facebook could actually do something with it. Imagine the possibilities for apps and games if a big chunk of Facebook users had it.

Unite is really awesome and I'm sorry to see it go, I used it for quick sharing with friends. Much more convenient than Dropbox when you just want something right there and then.

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And single key shortcuts!

And vertical multi-column tabs! And good performance for 100+ tabs on single core CPU-s! And speed dial! And integrated email/RSS client! And trash can! And notes! And so many more. Then I might switch.

You can get very very close to Opera features with Firefox extensions. For mouse gestures there’s an extensions called FireGestures. It’s actually more configurable than Opera’s. Speed dial is in Aurora, but it’s very basic right now.

The rest I didn’t use/care, but I can recall there being an extension for every one of those things.

Not saying Firefox is better than Opera necessarily, it's just that Firefox is quite powerful as well.

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I'm really baffled by all those people saying that they will stop using Opera if FB acquires them. I mean - okay, If they start modifying it to send your data to Facebook without way to opt-out - sure, do that. If they start showing ads in fastmail and reading your mails - sure, that's reasonable. But I really think that doing that the moment FB acquires Opera would be quite an overreaction.

I don't know. I'm quite worried that the whole technology space is turning into a big brand feud war arena. We are begining to see the subverting of unrelated products into business strategies. No, I don't want my browser/car/glasses/phone with any strings attached. What are we looking forward to a decade from now? iBank? FB insurence? G+ real state? I for one will make efforts to avoid those products like the plague…

If I could up-vote this a hundred times, I would. Welcome to the Internet: sponsored (filtered!) by Apple/Google/Facebook/[take your pick].

Reinforces my belief that open standards and open source really, really matter when it comes to a free and open Internet.

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I'll stop using Opera (currently my default browser) if facebook acquires it. Such is the level of trust I have over facebook.

I’ll just use the open source version.

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omnibox

I'll use this page as reference for omnibox - http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ans... . Opera has custom inline searches. I type in the address bar "eng cacophony" and I am being redirected here www.thefreedictionary.com/cacophony . "w Opera browser features" takes me to the wikipedia page. I can define how many custom keywords as I please. Again, long before Chrome existed. I could do this in the…

Firefox did that too. It's very nice but not quite the same as Omnibox. Also, it's a bit of a superuser feature IMO, with Omnibox being more accessible.
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