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Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last 50k years

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Post by waihtis »

Rinzler89 wrote: post #5
waihtis wrote: post #4

Can we soon start talking about the largest elephant in the room - China and their global junk manufacturing industry - seeing how China commits approximately the same amount of CO2 into the atmosphere as the United States, India, the EU and Russia combined? Global top polluters: China, more than 14 million tons of CO2 United States, 6 million tons of CO2 India, 3.5 million tons of CO2 European Union, 3.4 million ton…

> - China and their global junk manufacturing industry And who orders, buys and pays for all the junk? The western consumers. Who offshored their own dirty manufacturing industry to China due to their lack of workers/human rights and environmental protection? The west. Which companies profited the most from this offshoring to China? The western ones. Same for the textile/clothes industry. So I think you're looking at…

No I'm with you, the multinational corporations are a major culprit in this.

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Post by goatlover »

onion2k wrote: post #9
waihtis wrote: post #4

Can we soon start talking about the largest elephant in the room - China and their global junk manufacturing industry - seeing how China commits approximately the same amount of CO2 into the atmosphere as the United States, India, the EU and Russia combined? Global top polluters: China, more than 14 million tons of CO2 United States, 6 million tons of CO2 India, 3.5 million tons of CO2 European Union, 3.4 million ton…

Per capita the US would be on top.

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onion2k wrote: post #9
waihtis wrote: post #4

Can we soon start talking about the largest elephant in the room - China and their global junk manufacturing industry - seeing how China commits approximately the same amount of CO2 into the atmosphere as the United States, India, the EU and Russia combined? Global top polluters: China, more than 14 million tons of CO2 United States, 6 million tons of CO2 India, 3.5 million tons of CO2 European Union, 3.4 million ton…

Per capita the US would be on top.

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wafriedemann wrote: post #7
belter wrote: post #3

We are in the multilayered race between - The risk of the rise of AGI - The risk and madness of Nuclear conflict - The risk of runaway Climate change My money is on Mother Gaia. She will brutally and swiftly discipline her puppies.

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Post by aeonik »

belter wrote: post #3

We are in the multilayered race between - The risk of the rise of AGI - The risk and madness of Nuclear conflict - The risk of runaway Climate change My money is on Mother Gaia. She will brutally and swiftly discipline her puppies.

AGI will likely want low noise circuitry, so at least a rogue AI overlord would likely be aligned with the other two objectives.

Can't have high intensity radioactive and thermal noise messing with those world dominating algorithms.

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Post by belter »

waihtis wrote: post #4

Can we soon start talking about the largest elephant in the room - China and their global junk manufacturing industry - seeing how China commits approximately the same amount of CO2 into the atmosphere as the United States, India, the EU and Russia combined? Global top polluters: China, more than 14 million tons of CO2 United States, 6 million tons of CO2 India, 3.5 million tons of CO2 European Union, 3.4 million ton…

That is unfair on China, since they manufacture lots of the dirty stuff the rest of the world outsourced on them.

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Post by 127 »

belter wrote: post #3

We are in the multilayered race between - The risk of the rise of AGI - The risk and madness of Nuclear conflict - The risk of runaway Climate change My money is on Mother Gaia. She will brutally and swiftly discipline her puppies.

Or maybe AI will just nuke humans to fix climate change.

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deelowe wrote: post #8
waihtis wrote: post #4

Can we soon start talking about the largest elephant in the room - China and their global junk manufacturing industry - seeing how China commits approximately the same amount of CO2 into the atmosphere as the United States, India, the EU and Russia combined? Global top polluters: China, more than 14 million tons of CO2 United States, 6 million tons of CO2 India, 3.5 million tons of CO2 European Union, 3.4 million ton…

Should the conversation be production or consumption? Who's really to blame?

I agree, there's roughly three parties to blame, the large corps, the junk manufacturers and the idiots who buy cheap chinese junk en masse

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Post by dangus »

belter wrote: post #3

We are in the multilayered race between - The risk of the rise of AGI - The risk and madness of Nuclear conflict - The risk of runaway Climate change My money is on Mother Gaia. She will brutally and swiftly discipline her puppies.

I feel AGI and nuclear conflict have zero relevance to this article.

I also personally think the risk of nuclear conflict is pretty much zero.

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Post by c048 »

belter wrote: post #3

We are in the multilayered race between - The risk of the rise of AGI - The risk and madness of Nuclear conflict - The risk of runaway Climate change My money is on Mother Gaia. She will brutally and swiftly discipline her puppies.

'Mother' Gaia will wipe all complex life from this planet with 1 to 1.5 Billion years if her 'undisciplined' puppies don't find a way to leave this ball of dirt.

She's also got quite a lead with killing off 99.99999% of all species that ever lived, when compared to us.

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