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Post by sabellito »

salamo wrote: post #353

The first thing I will do when I get access to this is ask it to generate a realistic chess board. I have never gotten a decent looking chessboard with any image generator that doesn't have deformed pieces, the correct number of squares, squares properly in a checkerboard pattern, pieces placed in the correct position, board oriented properly (white on the right!) and not an otherwise illegal position. It seems to be…

Per usual the top comment on anything AI related is snark on "it can't to [random specific thing] well yet".

Re: Veo

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Post by stavros »

goostavos wrote: post #395
cryptoz wrote: post #388

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a middle ground here. I saw the northern lights with my own eyes just days ago and it was mostly grey. I saw some color. But when I took a photo with a phone camera, the color absolutely popped . So it may be that you've seen more color than any photo, but the average viewer in Seattle this past weekend saw grey-er with their eyes and huge color in their phone photos. (Edit: it was still super-cool even if gr…

The hubris of suggesting that your single experience of vaguely seeing the northern lights one time in Seattle has now led to a deep understanding of their true "color" and that the other person (perhaps all other people?) must be fooling themselves is... part of what makes HN so delightful to read. I've also seen the northern lights with my own eyes. Way up in the arctic circle in Sweden. Their color changes along w…

They did say "the average viewer in Seattle this past weekend", not "all other viewers".

Then again, the average viewer in Seattle this past weekend is hardly representative of what the northern lights look like.

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Post by jabits »

shwaj wrote: post #427
stkhlm wrote: post #414

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Living in northern Sweden I see the northern lights multiple times a year. I have never seen them pale or otherwise not colorful. Green and reds always. That is to my naked eye. Photographs do look more saturated, but the difference isn't as large as this comment thread make it out to be.

That mirrors my experience from when I used to live in northern Canada

Even in Upper Michigan near Lake Superior we sometimes had stunn, colorful Northern Lights. Sometimes it seemed like they were flying overhead within your grasp

Re: Veo

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Post by mirekrusin »

riffraff wrote: post #413
mirekrusin wrote: post #383

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Not mentioning Meta, the good guy now, is scandalous. X is not going to sit quietly as well. There is also the rest of us.

X is tiny compared to Apple/Meta/Google, both in engineering size and in "fingerprint" in people's life. Also engineering wise, currently every tweet is followed by a reply "my nudes in profile" and X seems unable to detect it as trivial spam, I doubt they have the chops to compete in this arena, especially after the mass layoffs they experienced.

By X I mean one guy with big pocket who won't sit quietly - I wouldn't underestimate him.

Re: Veo

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Post by darkstar_16 »

arcticbull wrote: post #354
salamo wrote: post #353

The first thing I will do when I get access to this is ask it to generate a realistic chess board. I have never gotten a decent looking chessboard with any image generator that doesn't have deformed pieces, the correct number of squares, squares properly in a checkerboard pattern, pieces placed in the correct position, board oriented properly (white on the right!) and not an otherwise illegal position. It seems to be…

Similarly the Veo example of the northern lights is a really interesting one. That's not what the northern lights look like to the naked eye - they're actually pretty grey. The really bright greens and even the reds really only come out when you take a photo of them with a camera. Of course the model couldn't know that because, well, it only gets trained on photos. Gets really existential - simulacra energy - maybe a…

Northern lights are actually pretty colourful, even to the naked eye. I've never seen them pale or b/w

Re: Veo

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Post by mFixman »

Octokiddie wrote: post #377

Oddly enough, I predict the final destination for this train will be for moving images to fade into the background. Everything will have a dazzling sameness to it. It's not unlike the weird place that action movies and pop music have arrived. What would have been considered unbelievable a short time ago has become bland. It's probably more than just novelty that's driving the comeback of vinyl.

AI generated images and video are not competing against actual quality work with money put into it. They are competing against the quick photoshop or Adobe Aftereffects done by hobbyists and people learning how to work in the creative arts.

I never heard HN claiming that Copilot will replace programmers. Why do so many people believe generative AI will replace artists?

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Post by tsurba »

carschno wrote: post #428
runeks wrote: post #425

Didn't the model ever fail to generate realistic-looking content? If I don't know better I'd think you just cherry-picked the prompts with the best-looking results.

What you see there is a product, not the scientific contribution behind it. Consequently, you see marketing material, not a scientific evaluation.

Unfortunately also the majority of scientific papers for eg. image generation have had completely cherry-picked examples for a long time now.

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Post by squeaky-clean »

Ferret7446 wrote: post #412
shermantanktop wrote: post #367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a colorblind person…I could see the northern lights way better than all the full-color-vision people around me squinting at their phones. Wider bandwidth isn’t always better.

> I could see the northern lights way better than all the full-color-vision people around me How would you know?

Quote the entire sentence, not just a portion of it.
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