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New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

#161

Sounds like a good way to save someone from severe alcohol poisoning. Not sure I see much of a point otherwise, tbh.

Some folks, like myself, love the taste of a peaty whiskey, but have bodies that don't agree with alcohol.

I can’t stand the taste of any alcohol. I literally only consume it for one reason. The intoxicating effect. I get enough to get the job done then stop.

So this gel seems like drinking less booze with extra steps. I do see a use for women and undercover cops though. Or to make people think you are drunker than you are.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

#162
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What we really need is something that helps quickly break down acetaldehyde, which is what alcohol is broken down to in your bloodstream and is responsible for all the negative side effects.

Check out a product named ZBiotics [1] which claims to do this. I can't tell you that it for certain works as advertised, but between myself and several other people now in my friend group, all but one swears by the results in terms of the morning after. [1] https://zbiotics.com

Confirmed. Zbiotics works great. It's a very noticeable difference.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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> Something to sober you up if you're already drunk would be amazing ... But it's the fun of alcohol! What'd be amazing would be something that really works against the headaches and/or prevent vomiting. Basically something for the next day or even the next two days (when you get old, if you party too hard it can take two days to feel good again: I hate it so at 50 I very rarely party hard anymore: maybe once a year)…

Hangovers are a good part caused by by the body reacting to the "damage" that alcohol does: - Alcohol loosens the blood vessels, whereas a lot of the effects of a hangover are caused by the body then "over-constricting" when the aclohol goes away, causing headaches and nausea. The cause of the headache is similar for a brain-freeze from too much ice cream causing the veins in your neck and throat to constrict, though…

Some of it is down to that.

Some is down to the metabolic products of ethanol, specifically aldehydes. There are other alcohols (like tert-Amyl alcohol) that people have used recreationally which don't cause hangovers in the same way.

There are other great reasons not to mess with these substances (tert-Amyl is very long lasting and as little as 30ml might kill you), but they do show that some of the hangover is down to the specifics of ethanol's breakdown in the body.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Non-alcoholic beer sales are close to $40B/year globally and going up. Generally speaking, the flavor of non-alcoholic beer pales in comparison to the real thing. Then there's also the market for wine and spirits.

There are some new, very good, NA beers on the market these days. Untitled Art and Athletic are two brands that are doing great work.

The Athletic seasonals are way better than their "always available." And the Free Wave is better than the Run Wild for the always available beers. They had an Irish Stout (Emerald Coast) that was indistinguishable. I could have blind taste tested them. There's some fantastic single-hop beers too.

I couldn't get into the Untitled Art. Just too sweet.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

#165

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Sounds like maybe the "alcohol free"/"0.0%" beer (not really 100% alcohol free) is something you should try. Tastes and looks like beer, but doesn't come with the buzz (which is the thing that your brain hooks into and uses to tell you it isn't enough yet).

> Tastes and looks like beer I have tried almost every major non-alcoholic beer in the U.S., and none of them truly taste exactly like beer.

They are improving all the time.

Some are really good. If you like german weissbeer then Franziskaner Alkoholfrei is more or less indistiguishable to me.

There are other good ones too.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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It's 100% a matter of self-control.

No it's not. That's a lazy way of thinking. Addiction isn't that simple, and deluding yourself into thinking it's that simple does yourself a disservice. It's not a moral failing, it's a disease.

Self control is not 'simple', nor did I say anything about a 'moral failing'. 'Deluding yourself' by arguing against a position you imagined does yourself a disservice and just seems like a simple straw-man.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

#167

Something to sober you up if you're already drunk would be amazing, but I don't think this will do that

Turmeric-based drinks we can find here in Japan are said to work miracles against hangover. I rarely drink alcohol, so I can't tell whether that's true.

I don't know if it's a placebo effect; but I find that they _do_ work.

_But_ they also make you less drunk and making the drunkenness less... pleasant?

Sample size of like... 4 nights out having nomihoudai.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

#168
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It's 100% a matter of self-control.

Addiction is a psychological disorder - it is not at all a matter of self-control. Just as being sad is not the same thing as being clinically depressed, and worrying about a review is not the same thing as having an anxiety disorder, people need to stop equating really liking something and being addicted to said thing.

> Addiction is a psychological disorder - it is not at all a matter of self-control.

And self-control is not psychological?

> people need to stop equating really liking something and being addicted to said thing.

Self control is precisely the difference between really linking something and consuming a reasonable/healthy amount of it vs being addicted to it and overconsuming.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Some folks, like myself, love the taste of a peaty whiskey, but have bodies that don't agree with alcohol.

I can’t stand the taste of any alcohol. I literally only consume it for one reason. The intoxicating effect. I get enough to get the job done then stop. So this gel seems like drinking less booze with extra steps. I do see a use for women and undercover cops though. Or to make people think you are drunker than you are.

Because everyone who isn’t you is a woman or an undercover cop?

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

#170
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i meant conceptually even if mechanism of action is different.

Sure, if the difference between being intoxicated and not is merely conceptual to you. For me it is not, but to each their own.

different people have different threshold for intoxication. for me it rather high. yet zbiotics take care of day after and liver
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