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New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Post by aantix »

voisin wrote: post #55
aantix wrote: post #51

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Take it a couple of hours before drinking. You won't feel as drunk and will have less of a hangover.

What about all the other negative impacts though - like liver impact and blood pressure. Isn’t it better to just moderate your drinking rather than drinking to excess and then dialing back the feel of it with broccoli?

Agree.

Of all the negatives, I think diminished sleep is the one that doesn’t get enough attention.

It’s superficial sleep at best. You’re up peeing 3,4,5 times a night. You never enter REM sleep. You’re dragging the entire next day. All to do it over again to your body the next day?

Of the people that I know that drink actively almost every day, they look like shit, and lack motivation.

Their body is crying out for rest and better food but they just keep drinking through their signals.

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Post by fragmede »

readthenotes1 wrote: post #38
sctb wrote: post #33

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That's exactly what benzodiazepines are for, but only for short-term taper protocols as the dependence/withdrawal profile over the long term is worse than alcohol. Medium-term can be covered by gabapentin.

I know an alcoholic who was also addicted to gabapentin. It didn't reduce his alcoholism, and even when he tried to stop drinking, he would get stoned on the gabapentin (and was largely unaware of his diminished state)

How did ozempic treat him?

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

tristor wrote: post #135
SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #133

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They already noted in the article that once it’s passed into your bloodstream this approach is useless. I see it more like being a better form of naltrexone, someone takes it before going on a night out and saves themselves a nasty hangover while getting to party. I’ve always disliked the lack of availability of low alcohol beers in the States (1-2%) and this could be a decent solution for that. As is the easiest thi…

I was unaware of people using naltrexone for hangover prevention and did a bit of spot research, it seems naltrexone only prevents the buzz/euphoria from alcohol consumption but doesn't prevent impairment or hangover symptoms, such as those caused by dehydration, nor does it prevent liver damage.

If you’ve never taken it before: it reduces cravings too. If your goal is to get drunk, it won’t stop you, but it does help to quell the dopamine beast if that’s not your goal

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Post by Bognar »

adfm wrote: post #90

Jim Koch, founder and brewer of Sam Adams, says that he mixes a teaspoon of bakers yeast (not sure which) and yogurt to break down the alcohol before it hits the bloodstream and has been doing it for years if not decades. https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/07/10/327854051/al...

I heard a different variant of this, which is that Jim Koch the brewer at Sam Adams is a functioning alcoholic who drinks a lot throughout the day. The yogurt and yeast is an unrelated thing that he claims to work.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Post by fragmede »

wubrr wrote: post #123
KittenInABox wrote: post #119

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> Self-control is like a muscle: exercise it frequently, and it gets stronger. It also gets tired and needs rest, and it atrophies with disuse. Addiction is not a matter of self-control.

It's 100% a matter of self-control.

No it's not. That's a lazy way of thinking. Addiction isn't that simple, and deluding yourself into thinking it's that simple does yourself a disservice. It's not a moral failing, it's a disease.

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Post by filleduchaos »

hylaride wrote: post #41
TacticalCoder wrote: post #34

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> Something to sober you up if you're already drunk would be amazing ... But it's the fun of alcohol! What'd be amazing would be something that really works against the headaches and/or prevent vomiting. Basically something for the next day or even the next two days (when you get old, if you party too hard it can take two days to feel good again: I hate it so at 50 I very rarely party hard anymore: maybe once a year)…

Hangovers are a good part caused by by the body reacting to the "damage" that alcohol does: - Alcohol loosens the blood vessels, whereas a lot of the effects of a hangover are caused by the body then "over-constricting" when the aclohol goes away, causing headaches and nausea. The cause of the headache is similar for a brain-freeze from too much ice cream causing the veins in your neck and throat to constrict, though…

A reliable way to prevent hangovers in my experience is to simply pace yourself properly as well as eat and drink plenty of water.

People go out partying on near-empty stomachs and take crazy amounts of alcoholic drinks with not so much as a drop of water all night; it's no surprise that their bodies react that extremely.

Also, sticking to drinks with low levels of congeners helps immensely. Ethanol is already toxic enough without throwing other more dangerous alcohols into the mix.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Post by filleduchaos »

wubrr wrote: post #123
KittenInABox wrote: post #119

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> Self-control is like a muscle: exercise it frequently, and it gets stronger. It also gets tired and needs rest, and it atrophies with disuse. Addiction is not a matter of self-control.

It's 100% a matter of self-control.

Addiction is a psychological disorder - it is not at all a matter of self-control.

Just as being sad is not the same thing as being clinically depressed, and worrying about a review is not the same thing as having an anxiety disorder, people need to stop equating really liking something and being addicted to said thing.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Post by OSI-Auflauf »

somesortofthing wrote: post #117
TacticalCoder wrote: post #34

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> Something to sober you up if you're already drunk would be amazing ... But it's the fun of alcohol! What'd be amazing would be something that really works against the headaches and/or prevent vomiting. Basically something for the next day or even the next two days (when you get old, if you party too hard it can take two days to feel good again: I hate it so at 50 I very rarely party hard anymore: maybe once a year)…

I have really awful genetics for drinking(I'm 23 and already experience the thing you're describing with taking multiple days to feel good again, and instead of physical symptoms I get crushing depression) so I'd love to just take some of this stuff before a night out to drink the same volume as other people without having to deal with the aftereffects.

Thats interesting. Are you ok for a 1on1 talk about this topic?
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