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New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Have you ever struggled with addiction (food, drink, drugs, media, games, sleep, porn etc.)? I can't provide a study, but anecdotally I suspect nearly everyone does. > Show some discipline and restraint This is such unhelpful, unsympathetic advice.

This gel, if anything, will enable addiction.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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I honestly don't "get" why someone would use this? It doesn't reverse intoxication, and it doesn't prevent alcohol from entering the bloodstream. I get that alcoholic drinks taste better than their non-alcoholic counterparts (frozen margaritas are so much better than slush puppies,) but this won't prevent the buzz / intoxication.

Just one example: Closing a business deal in China or Japan might require you to drink a lot of alcohol.

This is precisely the first thing I thought of.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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I honestly wonder whether people would drink alcohol if there weren't intoxicating effects. What I mean is, does anyone really believe that alcohol is pleasant to drink or is that purely a trick of the mind/body to get you to satisfy the craving?

It was mentioned elsewhere in the thread, but alcohol is an amazing chemical for absorbing other potent flavors. It's why it's commonly used for herb extracts and medicines. Part of what I like about many alcoholic drinks is they have pungent flavors that are hard to find elsewhere. An herbal liquor is going to often have much stronger flavor of the herbs than you'd get from making a tea or a soda.

There's also more diversity in the options because it's a natural preservative. Much easier for a store to stock niche-flavored spirits in small quantities when they functionally never go bad, which in turn helps keep a market for niche products that wouldn't exist if they needed steady high demand. Even something as popular as Fernet Branca doesn't really have a flavor equal in any other beverage class.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Alcohol-free drinks already exist. They're a much easier sell than alcoholic drinks + some weird gel.

Maybe, but so what? If this enables people to have a few drinks after work in the evening and be fully sober for work the next day, I’m all for it.

Also, anything that can rapidly break down alcohol in the body will help as a medical treatment for alcohol overdoses.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. And ideally that shouldn't matter. But in the real world there are other consequences and side effects. Maybe I don't want to make them uncomfortable. Maybe I just don't want to deal with the nagging, "busting my chops", or the questions about why I'm not drinking. Maybe I want to avoid some preconceived notions certain people may have about people who don't drink. So even if it's on them, there are still per…

I encountered a lot of peer pressure to drink when I was in college. (I didn't drink much because a lot of alcohol makes my stomach upset.) Don't surround yourself with people who make you uncomfortable. It's a lesson I realized as I got older: It has little to do with drinking; but if the people around you make you feel uncomfortable not drinking, then you're around the wrong people.

> Don't surround yourself with people who make you uncomfortable.

I wish I learnt this at age 0. This goes for online life as well.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Something to sober you up if you're already drunk would be amazing, but I don't think this will do that

> Something to sober you up if you're already drunk would be amazing ... But it's the fun of alcohol! What'd be amazing would be something that really works against the headaches and/or prevent vomiting. Basically something for the next day or even the next two days (when you get old, if you party too hard it can take two days to feel good again: I hate it so at 50 I very rarely party hard anymore: maybe once a year)…

I have really awful genetics for drinking(I'm 23 and already experience the thing you're describing with taking multiple days to feel good again, and instead of physical symptoms I get crushing depression) so I'd love to just take some of this stuff before a night out to drink the same volume as other people without having to deal with the aftereffects.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever struggled with addiction (food, drink, drugs, media, games, sleep, porn etc.)? I can't provide a study, but anecdotally I suspect nearly everyone does. > Show some discipline and restraint This is such unhelpful, unsympathetic advice.

> This is such unhelpful, unsympathetic advice. I think writing this advice off as unhelpful is actually more harmful than offering it in the first place. I think this is very real and very helpful advice. Is it hard to follow? Speaking from experience: absolutely. Self-control is like a muscle: exercise it frequently, and it gets stronger. It also gets tired and needs rest, and it atrophies with disuse. And like exe…

> Self-control is like a muscle: exercise it frequently, and it gets stronger. It also gets tired and needs rest, and it atrophies with disuse.

Addiction is not a matter of self-control.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

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Alcohol-free drinks already exist. They're a much easier sell than alcoholic drinks + some weird gel.

This seems to be useful for people who are either allergic to alcohol or who are trying to keep up or competitively pressure others into intoxication. Otherwise, it would be wiser to just avoid EtOH that has no safe lower intake threshold and is conspicuously expensive.
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