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All you need is e-mail, e-mail. E-mail is all you need.

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Re: All you need is e-mail, e-mail. E-mail is all you need.

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post #9

Email is OK as a communication tool. But companies use it as a task/to-do list and to work together on tasks. Email is terrible to achieve this. You will end up with lots of emails and multiple versions of the same documents... That is why I wish someone fix email! :)

Maybe in outlook...aren't most of those problems solved by gmail? :)

How does gmail solve this problem?

Re: All you need is e-mail, e-mail. E-mail is all you need.

#13

Email is OK as a communication tool. But companies use it as a task/to-do list and to work together on tasks. Email is terrible to achieve this. You will end up with lots of emails and multiple versions of the same documents... That is why I wish someone fix email! :)

I don't think that's a reason to "fix email". Rather, it's a reason to use the right tool for the job. If you need a to-do list, use an app that does to-do lists well. If you need to keep track of changes to documents, use a version control system. What's needed, of course, is a tool that integrates all these other tools into a manageable workflow. But that's not "fixing email", either, it's just another tool.

Re: All you need is e-mail, e-mail. E-mail is all you need.

#14

+1 E-mail is incredibly underutilized as a technology. One could make an argument the majority of instagram's (of course not the filters) functionality could be handled by e-mail, but the "perceived need" to use apps on the smartphone that you purchased for a large percentage of your monthly income but the experience of using the app is difficult to discount. Another point worth considering is that much of the functi…

It'd take a long time to type in those 20 email addresses every time you snap a photo on your vacation.

Re: All you need is e-mail, e-mail. E-mail is all you need.

#15
> Why build a new messaging product when the basic functionality of email combined with a little effort from the user can achieve the same result?

Well, to begin with, users don't want to expend even a little bit of effort. Isn't that why everyone is trying to minimize friction in the sign-up process?

I agree that e-mail, as a protocol, is a powerful tool that is often misunderstood. But we really need e-mail clients that allow us to keep track of a large number of threads without getting lost of feeling swamped. Gmail tries to do this to some extent, but it's far from perfect.

Re: All you need is e-mail, e-mail. E-mail is all you need.

#16

It helps to remember that the first social networks (See: Usenet) were built out of email. EDIT: All email needs is the ability to display information like the web can. Properly formatted and threaded.

So are some of the later ones. Twitter built a multi-billion dollar business by duplicating the functionality of email and listserv in a proprietary service.

Re: All you need is e-mail, e-mail. E-mail is all you need.

#17
post #7

Email is awesome, certainly. But if everyone actually started a mass-email to all their friends about every little topic they post to a Facebook status update, I'd call 'em pretty damned rude abusing my email inbox like that and my email client would need even better filters than it already has to fight the commercial spam. Experiments to find things better than email will mostly fail, but I think we still need more…

You point to the #1 biggest wonderful feature of email.

Sending email is an act that incurs responsibility. WHY are we sending all this shit around? Email makes it clear. I have made a decision that you should spend your time reading and understanding this text. If that's rude, tell me and I'll stop.

This article strikes a chord because email is about communication instead of endless "sharing," broadcasting, forwarding, signalling.

I'm awash in a sea of tweets and notifications but when I see a familiar name as the sender of an actual goddamn email, then I feel reality existing again.

I have a friend who can't stop dreaming about hypothetical advances in social networking that will let us do all kinds of wonderful things, but it'll never be good enough, convenient enough — no technology will ever do the real work of social caring, no shiny app will ever let humans communicate in a way that's easy and non-messy.

There's some kind of consumerism-type ideology around social networks and apps that works like that of beauty magazines and television. TV is boring so Facebook is the new Friends.

It's all so happy, creative, wonderful. There should be a social network that says "fuck you" to all the cutesy glitter on the top of the Maslow pyramid — that's only about, say, "sharing" expressions of the dull lethargy that comes from exhausting oneself with work or work-seeking in a crisis economy.

Sorry for ranting, but this deeply-rooted nausea w/r/t the social web is something that doesn't come out clearly for me all the time, and when it does I feel like I should channel it to get some affect going, because everything is so tediously pastel and we need to change shit up.

Re: All you need is e-mail, e-mail. E-mail is all you need.

#18

+1 E-mail is incredibly underutilized as a technology. One could make an argument the majority of instagram's (of course not the filters) functionality could be handled by e-mail, but the "perceived need" to use apps on the smartphone that you purchased for a large percentage of your monthly income but the experience of using the app is difficult to discount. Another point worth considering is that much of the functi…

It'd take a long time to type in those 20 email addresses every time you snap a photo on your vacation.

Any decent email client should do autocomplete.

Even if that's not the case, this is something the client should handle.

Re: All you need is e-mail, e-mail. E-mail is all you need.

#19
I couldn't agree more. I deal with a large number of older people on a daily basis as part of my volunteer work. Getting these folk to use the Internet in any way is painful. For example, I send out these PDF reports once a week. It's the same template every time but for accounting purposes, it has to be done. I wrote a Python script to generate those for me and I stick them up on a simple website on S3. The script them emails everyone to let them know the report is available and that they can download it. It includes a link to the report and to the website with all the other reports. These guys absolutely cannot open a browser and view the PDF in the browser. If it's not an attachment to the email, they don't know what to do.

TLDR --- Email is great. It's so simple that even non-techies get it.

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