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They'll recap the company, at the expense of IC grants.
Does that mean dilute the cap table and then suddenly the PE shares are equivalent to like 4 employee shares or something? Or the PE shares have some special dividend that the employee ones do not?
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There's Wix, Webflow, and others already. Seems pretty crowded.
Which is a pretty good sign the market is viable. You only need to "be better". And here "better", means eveything on can think of, including NOT spending money.
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I think they just load up on debt, so they aren't really buying it with their money. But what I don't understand is how they get people to loan them money when they know that they are just going to strip mine the company for all valuable assets and leave a shell of a company for the lenders to fight over.
For a leveraged buy out, the most important thing are the cash flows. So if a business has enough $ to service the loan there should be no problem. Also good to remember that the business model of PE firms is to buy a leveraged asset, hold for 5 ish years, resale asset at a higher price than it was bought from. Ofc easier said than done, but these investors don’t get involved to lose money purpose
traditional LBOs are not done on revenue multiples
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As much as I'd like to see a web 1.0 revival, this won't happen. The traffic is controlled by Google and social networks. Most people don't have the skills needed to run their own website. A lot of valuable content is created by people without these sorts of skills.
That's a function of technology. It would absolutely be possible to integrate something like Nextcloud into operating systems or devices. It will never happen, because every party in a position to do such an integration is also in a position to become a middleman and extract money, which is much more profitable.
No, it's a function of economics. Division of labour still works. It is not more profitable to run your own cloud and pay for your own traffic when you're specialized in producing content. It makes financial sense to pay someone to do that for you. The middleman is cheaper, that's why they exist. The internet looks like it does for only one reason, in any system of increasing complexity there are increased returns to specialization and trade.
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I currently use google but am thinking seriously about self hosting. For those few times could the clients send it to you via WhatsApp?
“Please send me that critical requirements document over WhatsApp, my email isn’t working” is a terrible thing to hear from a vendor/partner/etc.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think they just load up on debt, so they aren't really buying it with their money. But what I don't understand is how they get people to loan them money when they know that they are just going to strip mine the company for all valuable assets and leave a shell of a company for the lenders to fight over.
> how they get people to loan them money when they know that they are just going to strip mine the company Because on average, target firms of leveraged buyouts become more productive [1]. That lets them pay back shareholders and lenders in most cases. The reason public perception is off is the size effect and availability heuristic. The first shows that big deals do badly [2]. The second means the last widely-report…
It's always hard to analyze anything this big, especially with something as vague as "more productive":
> First, employment shrinks more rapidly, on average, at target establishments than at controls after private equity buyouts. The average cumulative difference in favor of controls is about 3 percent of initial employment over two years and 6 percent over five years. Second, the larger post-buyout employment losses at target establishments entirely reflect higher rates of job destruction at shrinking and exiting establishments. In fact, targets exhibit greater post-buyout creation of new jobs at expanding establishments. Adding controls for pre-buyout growth history shrinks the estimated employment responses to private equity buyouts but does not change the overall pattern. Third, earnings per worker at continuing target establishments fall by an average of 2.4 percent relative to controls over two years post buyout
So if I'm reading this right, huge layoffs followed by lots of churn with an overall decrease in salaries. But I must be missing something because the framing & wording seems to suggest that this is a positive thing. That paper also only looks at 2 years of data following acquisition. But the criticism for leveraged PE takeovers like this is that the PE firm is starting a 5-10 year project to strip mine the company for all it's worth and leaving a husk of a company that's loaded with the debt that was used to acquire it and no real assets. I'm not sure how looking at the first 2 years tells you anything.
The PE firm's switch to cheaper labor and suppliers is also reflected typically in a significant decrease in product quality which isn't analyzed here.
The main argument for leverage PE buyouts are they are performing a valuable service as they're doing a more graceful shutdown of a company vs letting the company fail on the public markets. But that's a harder argument when squarespace doesn't seem to be particularly struggling - they just IPOed during the pandemic bubble when internet stocks were crazy overvalued but they've been working their way back up.
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I'm already self hosting an e-mail server with no problems in deliverability or receiving. No limitations on aliases. No more artificial limits. Cyrus-imap + postfix. If I need to scale up, can migrate from sqlite to postgres.
Over 3 years running mailinabox. Zero problems after first month of hiccups. Installed a second server last year. That had 0 problems since day 1. I feel like people overblow the whole email thing. Want you to pay for tuta et al when you can build your own and manage it. I havent updated both servers in a year. Zero problems. Again, people maybe confuse miab and other email servers maintenance with maintaining nextcl…
This was what eventually broke my self hosting plan.. too many emails sent and never received.
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#199I hear that PE destroys products and culture to make money at all costs, but i don’t get how that can net them back the >$6 billion they paid for a company with <$300 million yearly revenue and negative profit.
Next step is they buy out Squarespace's competitors. Then they move everyone to the same platform, after cutting expenses by 50%, and doubling prices. I assure you there is a spreadsheet somewhere that runs through all this....once that is done, they do an IPO in 5 years to cash out.
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#200I hear that PE destroys products and culture to make money at all costs, but i don’t get how that can net them back the >$6 billion they paid for a company with <$300 million yearly revenue and negative profit.
Squarespace spent 40% of revenue and nearly 60% of gross profit on marketing and sales last quarter [1]. You could literally generate over $200mm in free cash flow by cutting marketing in half. This is a forced pivot from growth to sustaining a good business. [1] https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001496963/d08174f...
I don't know what the customer makeup of Squarespace is. It could be that by volume their typical customers are business that fail a lot, or have a high amount of churn (think sole proprietorships, businesses with 1 - 10 employees without in house tech experience, or part-time/side businesses like Etsy or Instagram stores). Depending on the makeup, a significant amount of this marketing could be required just to maintain a constant customer base.