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Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction with Permira

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Re: Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction with Permira

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post #137

> Permira, the global private equity firm current Squarespace users about to get gouged

Conveniently after taking over all of Google Domains too! I missed transferring a couple of domains before the cutover and now I’m in squarespace hell trying to get them out. They make it so much harder by putting artificial delays on everything.

Re: Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction with Permira

#172

The gold rush is over - private equity is going to squeeze every little drop from the companies that have been built and we will move on to Web 3.0 - which will be just like web 1.0 - self-hosting, link directories, newsletters, and guestbooks.

"Web3" was hijacked by cryptocurrency promoters as the marketing term for various get-rich-quick token schemes. (Generally what made them "web3" was simply that some venture capitalist had bought a bunch of the tokens early and would get to dump them on Coinbase.)

If there's going to be a web 1.0 revival, maybe it needs to jump straight to version 5 to leave enough of a gap from the taint of blockchain...

Re: Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction with Permira

#173
post #35

It is interesting how most M&A transactions trend to have a 30% premium above the trading price. I have tried to investigate why but could not find a good explanation to why this number is so prevalent.

The other replies explain the 30% with circular reasoning and I don’t find them convincing, so here’s a more absolute and testable hypothesis: at the average rate of S&P500 return adjusted for inflation, 30% is about 3-5 years of investment. What if that’s the average period of investment (i.e. time between buy and sell) for a typical retail investor for any given stock? If that’s the case, 30% is the minimum premium…

Good effort to think outside the box but this is just an “acquisition premium”. Nothing to do with the public markets. It is a very well know concept in the M&A world

Re: Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction with Permira

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I hear that PE destroys products and culture to make money at all costs, but i don’t get how that can net them back the >$6 billion they paid for a company with <$300 million yearly revenue and negative profit.

Squarespace spent 40% of revenue and nearly 60% of gross profit on marketing and sales last quarter [1]. You could literally generate over $200mm in free cash flow by cutting marketing in half. This is a forced pivot from growth to sustaining a good business.

[1] https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001496963/d08174f...

Re: Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction with Permira

#175
post #137

> Permira, the global private equity firm current Squarespace users about to get gouged

I was looking at hosted website/blog options a while back and it looks like pretty much everyone has teaser rates that blow up after some time period and have low-cost plans that almost work for a given need but you actually have to go up a tier of 2.

I have an existing blog on Blogger and have no need for ecommerce or a lot of business stuff. It's basically a home page and a blog. I came to the conclusion I should just leave things as they are and maybe add a second blog for a different purpose.

It's free and if it becomes a problem, I'll deal with it when it does.

Re: Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction with Permira

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I hear that PE destroys products and culture to make money at all costs, but i don’t get how that can net them back the >$6 billion they paid for a company with <$300 million yearly revenue and negative profit.

It looks like in FY2023, Squarespace reported about $1B in revenue, a loss, but about $230M in cash flow from operating activities.[1] It is growing, which helps a lot.

Mainly when I look at this, I think "it doesn't seem like its that easy to make money in PE these days." Maybe in the 80s there were lots of large corporations that were so poorly run that you could buy them with debt, cut costs, and make lots of money (see RJR Nabisco/Barbarians at the Gate, that was a terribly run company). But in regards to this deal, someone raised $6B, had to find a place to put it, and found the pickings were pretty slim.

Still, someone apparently thinks they can cover the debt service with the cash flow.

https://investors.squarespace.com/news-events-financials/inv...

Re: Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction with Permira

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post #152

I hear that PE destroys products and culture to make money at all costs, but i don’t get how that can net them back the >$6 billion they paid for a company with <$300 million yearly revenue and negative profit.

I think they just load up on debt, so they aren't really buying it with their money. But what I don't understand is how they get people to loan them money when they know that they are just going to strip mine the company for all valuable assets and leave a shell of a company for the lenders to fight over.

because frankly that is not what PE usually does, despite the extremely negative outlook in society and on HN

Re: Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction with Permira

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post #161
post #150

In other words, it's a great time to build the next Squarespace.

There's Wix, Webflow, and others already. Seems pretty crowded.

Most young folks don't understand URLs anymore? "Find us on App Store" or "Find us on Social Media" is the new internet. QR codes that takes you directly into a walled garden is the new web.

Re: Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction with Permira

#179
post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they just load up on debt, so they aren't really buying it with their money. But what I don't understand is how they get people to loan them money when they know that they are just going to strip mine the company for all valuable assets and leave a shell of a company for the lenders to fight over.

> how they get people to loan them money when they know that they are just going to strip mine the company Because on average, target firms of leveraged buyouts become more productive [1]. That lets them pay back shareholders and lenders in most cases. The reason public perception is off is the size effect and availability heuristic. The first shows that big deals do badly [2]. The second means the last widely-report…

Public perception is negative because profitability is usually reached by cutting unnecessary jobs and projects in the poorly run firm. People don’t like their jobs being cut

Re: Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction with Permira

#180
post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They gonna increase prices

not just increase prices but likely saddle the company with mountains of debt (which happens to be owned directly or indirectly by the PE firm). red lobster acquired by Golden Gate PE in cash deal in 2020 [1] red lobster subsequently squeezed for any value at all costs (cuts in labor, switching suppliers) [2] [1] https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/financing/asian-inv... [2] https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/03/food/r…

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/28/opinion/private-equity.ht...
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