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For more context, here are some of the references related to this thread: > Pavel Durov, the CEO of Telegram, has recently been making a big conspiracy push to promote Telegram as more secure than Signal.. https://t.me/durov/274 Jack Dorsey's Tweet: https://twitter.com/jack/status/1787895769183268948
To quote one comment (Phillip.png): "With assistance from Elon Musk" is a pretty big accusation. I held off replying until I read your whole thread, and then you didn't mention that at all. What the hell?" Seriously, what the heck has Elon Musk to do with this? Unless we also want to debate what we all think of Elon Musk when we talk about chat protocols?
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1787589564917490059
Keep in mind that X/Twitter's "For You" algo boosts posts to which Elon replies in his followers' feeds.
I don't know about Telegram being nasty towards Signal but Signal brought this upon themselves. Metadata are more important than the content of the messages and yet Signal has always been about knowing your phone number, with handwaving when the subject is mentioned. Sessions, a Signal fork, had its tagline right: "Share encrypted messages, not metadata" . Signal is a metadata exchanging app and it's about collecting…
Not sure if metadata is more important but ok. Signal has launched support to use nicknames instead of phone numbers although it's true this took a long time. I think Telegram is very wide-spread for running large group chats and communities, a use case that Signal is not interested in. Personally, I want my chats end to end encrypted and I'm grateful to Signal for pioneering this and inspiring Whatsapp, facebook mes…
You will still need a phone number to sign up for Signal. Signal still knows your phone number, you just hide it from your contacts. To me this only makes it even more suspicious.
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I use it since 2014 and have felt that it's very performant (more so than Signal or Whatsapp, Messenger, or Viber). Also, it adds many useful features that other messengers didn't always have and many still don't have, for example Saved Messages, Scheduled Messages, Spoiler Messages, Reply to Message, message formatting (bold, monospace, etc), just to name a few off the top of my head.
Signal has "Scheduled Messages, Spoiler Messages, Reply to Message, message formatting (bold, monospace, etc)". I don't know what Saved Messages are, maybe it doesn't have those. Oh, and it's end-to-end encrypted by default.
I don't know about Telegram being nasty towards Signal but Signal brought this upon themselves. Metadata are more important than the content of the messages and yet Signal has always been about knowing your phone number, with handwaving when the subject is mentioned. Sessions, a Signal fork, had its tagline right: "Share encrypted messages, not metadata" . Signal is a metadata exchanging app and it's about collecting…
Not sure if metadata is more important but ok. Signal has launched support to use nicknames instead of phone numbers although it's true this took a long time. I think Telegram is very wide-spread for running large group chats and communities, a use case that Signal is not interested in. Personally, I want my chats end to end encrypted and I'm grateful to Signal for pioneering this and inspiring Whatsapp, facebook mes…
https://nitter.poast.org/matthew_d_green/status/178968789886...
> you need a jailbroken (old) iPhone. And at the end you still can’t verify the whole app. Some files stay encrypted
So basically, it works you just have to bend over backwards to verify that it's truly reproducible.
You can download Telegram and many forked clients from F-Droid. All the builds are from source code, so you know the source code is up-to-date. Any distro can have Telegram clients, both official and third-party, in their repository. Compared to this 1. You cannot download Signal from F-Droid. You need to download it from the Google Play Store. The released source code has lagged behind the version on the Google Play…
I don't know about Telegram being nasty towards Signal but Signal brought this upon themselves. Metadata are more important than the content of the messages and yet Signal has always been about knowing your phone number, with handwaving when the subject is mentioned. Sessions, a Signal fork, had its tagline right: "Share encrypted messages, not metadata" . Signal is a metadata exchanging app and it's about collecting…
I don't know about Telegram being nasty towards Signal but Signal brought this upon themselves. Metadata are more important than the content of the messages and yet Signal has always been about knowing your phone number, with handwaving when the subject is mentioned. Sessions, a Signal fork, had its tagline right: "Share encrypted messages, not metadata" . Signal is a metadata exchanging app and it's about collecting…
> To me Telegram is going after WhatsApp, not Signal.
They mention Signal by name in the referenced post.