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I don't know a single person who doesn't use Telegram.
What country do you live in?
Kazakhstan.
Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure
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Re: Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure
#32It’s a Telegram psyop that uses emotion, particularly fear and paranoia, to switch to their shite platform.
It’s also part of Christopher Rufo’s campaign to oust NPR’s new CEO. https://www.bugeyedandshameless.com/p/chris-rufo-katherine-m...
Re: Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure
#33isn’t telegram the one that uses a wonky/sus custom encryption algorithm?
Re: Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure
#34Telegram has always felt like the catch-up of the messenger apps. I don't know a single person who uses it.
?!
Telegram is often praised here for their features that helped them to grow and made people keep using it. Something that Signal should consider doing.
They have 900million monthly active users.
Re: Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure
#35https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1789687898863792453.html
Re: Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure
#36Re: Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure
#37Not a huge fan of Signal (phone number requirement [0], crypto push a while ago), but there are worlds between those two, and every time the Telegram CEO makes a post it looks more like a scam than before. [0]: Yeah, might be changing or has already. Now, after ages.
> phone number requirement. Yeah, might be changing or has already. Now, after ages.
A phone number is still required for registration. As of a few weeks, it's not necessarily communicated to your contacts anymore, which solves a few concerns (but not all).
> crypto push a while ago
I was worried about this, but I use Signal daily and I haven't even noticed anything in the UI about this, it seems like a non event in the end.
Re: Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure
#38So the entire argument for "Telegram isn’t a secure messenger, full stop." is that E2EE is opt-in?
If that's all there is to it, then the opinion is rather weak.
edit: maybe post a comment in addition to pressing the downbutton. I'm curious what's so problematic about what I've said.
Re: Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure
#39FSB vs CIA? You can check this thread where his claims are debunked https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/according-to-elon-musk-s...
and who runs privacyguides.net ? the FSB or CIA?
Re: Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure
#40I don't trust either side and having a cryptography expert located in Baltimore, MD trying to prove that the other side is wrong seems just as off as a Russian owner trying to prove the opposite. In the end it doesn't matter if you are using a smart phone from Apple or Google as your soft-keyboard is such an easy target there is no need to decrypt anything.
For what it’s worth, Matt has a pretty damn good track record