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Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure

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Re: Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure

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Telegram has always felt like the catch-up of the messenger apps. I don't know a single person who uses it.

I don't know a single person who doesn't use Telegram.

What country do you live in?

Re: Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure

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I don't trust either side and having a cryptography expert located in Baltimore, MD trying to prove that the other side is wrong seems just as off as a Russian owner trying to prove the opposite.

In the end it doesn't matter if you are using a smart phone from Apple or Google as your soft-keyboard is such an easy target there is no need to decrypt anything.

Re: Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure

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Telegram has always felt like the catch-up of the messenger apps. I don't know a single person who uses it.

As with any messenger, it depends on countries and regions and groups of people.

Everyone in my friend group is using it.

In terms of functionality, speed, fluidity of the interface everyone is trying to catch up to Telegram. And doing a half-assed job of it

Re: Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many do. But most use it as a forum software, or to send files, than as a messenger.

i use it for messaging and everyone else i know does too. "most"? any sources?

"Most" was anecdota here.

Oh and I also use it for messaging sometimes. But my main use case is participating in various groups, like in a forum way. And my peer group does the same and I have not met a single person that uses telegram mainly for messaging. Most also have signal or whatsapp for that.

Re: Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure

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Given the location of Telegram's servers (Dubai), and the nature of the government (neutral dictatorship) and the lack of encryption, my default assumption would be that not only are they selling access to your data to major governments, they've probably even streamlined the bidding process.

Re: Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure

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Telegram has always felt like the catch-up of the messenger apps. I don't know a single person who uses it.

I know a quite a lot of people (including me) who use it as a kinda RSS reader to keep up to date with Russian cyber security threat actors.

Re: Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure

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I don't trust either side and having a cryptography expert located in Baltimore, MD trying to prove that the other side is wrong seems just as off as a Russian owner trying to prove the opposite. In the end it doesn't matter if you are using a smart phone from Apple or Google as your soft-keyboard is such an easy target there is no need to decrypt anything.

Yes, afaik the whole point of all this tech is that it is compromised by design and intended to allow agencies/governments/corporations fine grained access to each individual.

I use both these apps fwiw. I'm under no illusions that anything is really private online.

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