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MacRelix – Unix-like features for classic Mac OS

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Re: MacRelix – Unix-like features for classic Mac OS

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This makes me wonder.. Are there any quirky whimsical or nostalgic but still functional desktop OS out there.. Like the fantasy console PICO-8, but for Desktop applications?

There's this https://www.haiku-os.org/

Haiku lost the plot as far as I'm concerned when they didn't even try to support the Raspberry Pi as a target (where it would have been incredibly awesome). Right now the RISCv port is usable, but a lot of momentum was lost to the gods of fully open hardware...

Re: MacRelix – Unix-like features for classic Mac OS

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9front, seemingly Plan 9's de-facto successor, is almost surely quirky, often whimsical, at times nostalgic. It might even be functional, depending on how you define that[1]. Is actively developed, has a vibrant community. Puts an interesting spin on how you lay out systems, but doesn't diverge much from the Bell Labs formula. I'd certainly recommend giving it a shot, for the UNIX-inclined. [1] I've daily driven it b…

I tried Plan9 as a minimalist desktop. I soon realised that three-button mouse chording isn't doable in this decade, and wish someone had written a Platinum-like window manager to replace rio.

Forking Rio to create a Twm clone would be nice.

Re: MacRelix – Unix-like features for classic Mac OS

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It doesn’t really go into what all it can do

Aside from the fun of having a CLI on a Mac, I also use it to dump the ROMs from my machines. e: it also comes with Git (among other utilities) which might make it worth it to some people for that alone.

I had forgotten how strange it was to see a terminal in OSX, a huge step sideways, I won't say backwards as it has its uses, but that was also the nasty green screen world I thought we had escaped from...

Re: MacRelix – Unix-like features for classic Mac OS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aside from the fun of having a CLI on a Mac, I also use it to dump the ROMs from my machines. e: it also comes with Git (among other utilities) which might make it worth it to some people for that alone.

I had forgotten how strange it was to see a terminal in OSX, a huge step sideways, I won't say backwards as it has its uses, but that was also the nasty green screen world I thought we had escaped from...

Yeah, when I was younger and a neophyte, I thought it was idiotic that Mac OS X had a command line. Now that I’ve switched to Mac and that I’ve learned how to use it, I wouldn’t move to a platform without strong Unix roots. So what I guess I’m saying is I wouldn’t use Windows.

Re: MacRelix – Unix-like features for classic Mac OS

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You can also install MPW (Macintosh Programmer's Workshop) and access a pretty decent command line environment via official Apple software.

MPW was actually one of the inspirations for MacRelix, in a backhanded sort of way: https://www.metamage.com/text/relix/origins.html I still use MPW's ToolServer for running the Metrowerks build tools, but sadly it's no longer available as an official download from Apple.

Question - looking at the code quickly, I see stuff about MWCC and Metrowerks object file format - is your tool chain in some way generating Metwowerks compatible object files? BeOS PowerPC uses the same compiler so you got me excited!

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This makes me wonder.. Are there any quirky whimsical or nostalgic but still functional desktop OS out there.. Like the fantasy console PICO-8, but for Desktop applications?

For me Ubuntu and Fedora give me nostalgia for Mac OS 10.5 and earlier. They remind me of that pre-iPhone era when software was shared via websites, when code signing and developer accounts hadn't become a thing yet, when the App Store was a radical suggestion, and before the OS became locked down with security and sandbox "features".

Yeah, you can still live in that era thankfully :)

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This makes me wonder.. Are there any quirky whimsical or nostalgic but still functional desktop OS out there.. Like the fantasy console PICO-8, but for Desktop applications?

9front, seemingly Plan 9's de-facto successor, is almost surely quirky, often whimsical, at times nostalgic. It might even be functional, depending on how you define that[1]. Is actively developed, has a vibrant community. Puts an interesting spin on how you lay out systems, but doesn't diverge much from the Bell Labs formula. I'd certainly recommend giving it a shot, for the UNIX-inclined. [1] I've daily driven it b…

Writing high school assignments in troff puts your an ubernerd status, which I am slightly envious of ;-)

Re: MacRelix – Unix-like features for classic Mac OS

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mbin most likely refers to "MacBinary" (a format used to preserve the Mac resource fork when a file is passed around online/on non-Mac file systems)

Indeed, I use .mbin for MacBinary, as the more conventional .bin is overloaded with other meanings. I also use .mbim for MacBinary+, which encodes a directory tree instead of a single file.

I've tried different versions of Macbinary without luck, maybe I'm missing something.
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