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America's Regime Change Wars Created Europe's Refugee Crisis

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Re: America's Regime Change Wars Created Europe's Refugee Crisis

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Post by python40 »

hindsightbias wrote: post #7

No nation, anywhere, ever has agency, except “senile” old Dark Brandon and good ol boy W. Dudes must be the greatest strategic thinkers in generations. Putin, Merkel, Macron, etc, just puppets on our strings. Conspiracies used to be pretty involved and complicated. Now the Bell Curve for conspiracies would be completely flat. Even CATO channels the ghost of Pravda.

It goes with the territory of being a hegemonic power. But yes obviously European and indeed African countries and their leaders also have their large share of responsibility.

Re: America's Regime Change Wars Created Europe's Refugee Crisis

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Post by jamil7 »

notaigenerated wrote: post #12

The author sounds as if he was directly hired by the russians, lmao. His writing tone is "60s soviet propaganda" and the arguments are shallow and insubstantial, to say the least. upd. Just checked his other articles. Yup, dude is a russian shill.

I’m not familiar with the author or their other articles so I can’t say whether they are or not but do we need to label all critics of western foreign policy Russian/CCP shills?

Re: America's Regime Change Wars Created Europe's Refugee Crisis

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Post by commoner »

noobermin wrote: post #13

This is a strange headline coming from the CATO institute of all people.

The Cato Institute is libertarian, so them being anti-interventionist shouldn't be surprising. The article was written by a "weekly columnist at Antiwar.com" according to the author's bio, which explains the tone of the headline.

Re: America's Regime Change Wars Created Europe's Refugee Crisis

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Post by brnt »

notaigenerated wrote: post #12

The author sounds as if he was directly hired by the russians, lmao. His writing tone is "60s soviet propaganda" and the arguments are shallow and insubstantial, to say the least. upd. Just checked his other articles. Yup, dude is a russian shill.

Also, in Europe, it isn't a secret that Putin's violence in Syria was meant to create pressure on Europe and create a diversion from Ukraine, and it worked (wir schaffen das).

When I read the title, I had a feeling somebody wanted to reframe that.

Re: America's Regime Change Wars Created Europe's Refugee Crisis

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Post by vidarh »

throwaway22032 wrote: post #5

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"The obvious solution" would be a violation of UK treaty obligations to not return asylum seekers with a genuine need of protection. Which given a high proportion have their asylum claims granted is a significant portion of them.

Once they are processed, those whose claims are denied can be returned to their home country.

But Rwanda is theatre. It costs more than processing them in the UK, and the number of people sent there will be a few hours worth of UK net migration.

The entire scheme exists for the government to be able to telegraph to their most anti-immigration supporters that they're doing something. What isn't the point.

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Post by [deleted] »

vidarh wrote: post #18
throwaway22032 wrote: post #5

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"The obvious solution" would be a violation of UK treaty obligations to not return asylum seekers with a genuine need of protection. Which given a high proportion have their asylum claims granted is a significant portion of them. Once they are processed , those whose claims are denied can be returned to their home country. But Rwanda is theatre. It costs more than processing them in the UK, and the number of people s…

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Re: America's Regime Change Wars Created Europe's Refugee Crisis

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Post by notaigenerated »

jamil7 wrote: post #15
notaigenerated wrote: post #12

The author sounds as if he was directly hired by the russians, lmao. His writing tone is "60s soviet propaganda" and the arguments are shallow and insubstantial, to say the least. upd. Just checked his other articles. Yup, dude is a russian shill.

I’m not familiar with the author or their other articles so I can’t say whether they are or not but do we need to label all critics of western foreign policy Russian/CCP shills?

I often do the "background check" of the writers that smell propaganda/psyop. What did they write and when they wrote it.

If you do just a quick check of what this guy wrote, you'll see he isn't just "a critic".

His Ukraine-related articles are the real litmus test. He's literally spewing the russian propaganda nonsense.

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