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Scott Galloway: How the US is destroying young people's future [video]

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Re: Scott Galloway: How the US is destroying young people's future [video]

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Post by qnleigh »

nox101 wrote: post #5
jmclnx wrote: post #3

He is right, but the young can change things. The sad fact is they do not vote, and if they vote at all it is only in presidential. Even in those elections well less then 50% vote. They are a big voting block, if they all start voting, including in local elections, in about 10 years you will see change. But seems people these days want instant change. 2024 will be a big tell for the young, depending on who wins, thin…

doesn't this assume they all vote as single block? if their vote is diverse then it won't make much difference

No. Political parties change their behavior to capture voting demographics. Right now politicians aren't motivated to win the young vote because we vote less.

Re: Scott Galloway: How the US is destroying young people's future [video]

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Post by dubcee349 »

nox101 wrote: post #5
jmclnx wrote: post #3

He is right, but the young can change things. The sad fact is they do not vote, and if they vote at all it is only in presidential. Even in those elections well less then 50% vote. They are a big voting block, if they all start voting, including in local elections, in about 10 years you will see change. But seems people these days want instant change. 2024 will be a big tell for the young, depending on who wins, thin…

doesn't this assume they all vote as single block? if their vote is diverse then it won't make much difference

Younger voters tend to blue.

Approximately half (53%) of young Americans indicate they will "definitely be voting" in the 2024 general election for president. Young Americans' interest in voting in 2024 is now on par with Harvard Youth Poll data from 2020, which indicated that 54% would likely vote.

If the presidential election were held today, President Biden would outperform former President Trump among both registered (50% Biden, 37% Trump) and likely young voters under 30 (56% Biden, 37% Trump). When there is no voter screen (i.e., all young adults 18-29), the race narrows to single digits, 45% for President Biden, 37% for former President Trump, with 16 percent undecided.

Among the 1,051 "likely voters" in our sample, we found significant differences in support levels based on gender, age, race/ethnicity, and education levels, among other subgroups. For example, among likely young voters:

    President Biden's lead among young men is six points; among young women his lead is 33 points;
    President Biden's lead among 18-24 year-olds is 14 points, and among 25-29 year-olds it is 26 points;
    President Biden's lead among white voters is 3 points; among non-white voters his lead is 43 points;
    President Biden's lead among college students is 23 points; he leads by 47 points among college graduates. The race is even among those not in college and without a four-year degree.
https://iop.harvard.edu/youth-poll/47th-edition-spring-2024

Re: Scott Galloway: How the US is destroying young people's future [video]

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Post by miek »

0x53 wrote: post #2

Been a fan of Scott’s for awhile. Don’t agree about everything but I think this video calls out the most important systemic problems.

I agree, and it's sad to feel the need to say this, but it's so important in this inflammatory era to respond positively to ideas and opinions despite not agreeing 100% or even 80%, because too often the baby is thrown out with the bathwater (especially online)

Re: Scott Galloway: How the US is destroying young people's future [video]

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Post by coretx »

tbrownaw wrote: post #10
siliconc0w wrote: post #6

I find it interesting to think you can socially engineer a society. It's such a unfathomable complex system that most the time, I imagine we're probably only 'right' by accident. Like one of scott's prescriptions is higher taxes - sure maybe that could be good if paired with wiser government spending but realistically that may just get poured into unproductive subsidies, regulations, or healthcare and military-comple…

> I find it interesting to think you can socially engineer a society. That's certainly not a new from of arrogance, people without the WIS to match their INT have been trying to construct utopias for quite a while.

Yet psyops/marketing proof to be very effective, thus it does work to a certain extend. Both are currently engineering society at above cold war levels. How effective it is might even be relatively simple to measure because of various methods of the past being reintroduced.

Re: Scott Galloway: How the US is destroying young people's future [video]

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Post by ncgl »

qnleigh wrote: post #11
nox101 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

doesn't this assume they all vote as single block? if their vote is diverse then it won't make much difference

No. Political parties change their behavior to capture voting demographics. Right now politicians aren't motivated to win the young vote because we vote less.

Great point

Re: Scott Galloway: How the US is destroying young people's future [video]

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Post by ruined »

siliconc0w wrote: post #6

I find it interesting to think you can socially engineer a society. It's such a unfathomable complex system that most the time, I imagine we're probably only 'right' by accident. Like one of scott's prescriptions is higher taxes - sure maybe that could be good if paired with wiser government spending but realistically that may just get poured into unproductive subsidies, regulations, or healthcare and military-comple…

>maybe a benevolent billionaire class will be more likely to 'fix' society more than our 'elected' representatives can

1. they're literally not

2. theoretically, representatives are representative

if you're concerned about someone's choices, i think you have a better chance at influencing the choices of someone who is at least nominally and maybe actually accountable to you.

the talk is about material allocations. it's actually pretty easy to just deliberately change material allocations, we're doing it all the time. having an opinion on how we do that is not some kind of engineering.

the accountability within our current power structure is quite debatable, but you can change that too.

Re: Scott Galloway: How the US is destroying young people's future [video]

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Post by ilrwbwrkhv »

ryanchoi51 wrote: post #8

The social contract of working hard and being able to own a home or start a family has been broken. This is especially true in Canada, where the government seems to be doing everything in its power to erase the middle class.

Ontario's conservative govt has made the entire state a third world country.

Re: Scott Galloway: How the US is destroying young people's future [video]

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Post by coretx »

jmclnx wrote: post #3

He is right, but the young can change things. The sad fact is they do not vote, and if they vote at all it is only in presidential. Even in those elections well less then 50% vote. They are a big voting block, if they all start voting, including in local elections, in about 10 years you will see change. But seems people these days want instant change. 2024 will be a big tell for the young, depending on who wins, thin…

Every individual with a Dollar in his/her pocket votes at every transaction. This may have more influence on powerful corpororations compared to voting for a party you have even less of a relationship with or stake in.
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