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Peter Jackson on how Tolkien stopped a Beatles LOTR film (2021)

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Re: Peter Jackson on how Tolkien stopped a Beatles LOTR film (2021)

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A Hard Day's Night is great because it's basically just them goofing around. The rest of the Beatles films have their charms, but they're not actors. I really can't imagine that the idea was to do a straight LOTR adaptation, it must have been some kind of parody. The whole appeal of the Beatles on screen is that they're funny.

Yesterday painted them as literal Gods, instead of just decent musicians at the right place at the right time.

To this day I go out of my way to ward people away from that terrible film.

Re: Peter Jackson on how Tolkien stopped a Beatles LOTR film (2021)

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> "Ultimately, they couldn't get the rights from Tolkien, because he didn't like the idea of a pop group doing his story. So it got nixed by him. They tried to do it. There's no doubt about it. I'm a Beatles fan. Tolkien was right to be skeptical, it would have been terrible. No doubt in my mind: campy, perfunctory, self-mocking. Please recall how "nerd" material was treated before the 2000s, if you'd like some prece…

Sure, but it's wrong that he was able to stop it.

We lost what could have been an interesting piece of art.

We should have more adaptations in the world not fewer.

Re: Peter Jackson on how Tolkien stopped a Beatles LOTR film (2021)

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post #2

A Hard Day's Night is great because it's basically just them goofing around. The rest of the Beatles films have their charms, but they're not actors. I really can't imagine that the idea was to do a straight LOTR adaptation, it must have been some kind of parody. The whole appeal of the Beatles on screen is that they're funny.

Yesterday painted them as literal Gods, instead of just decent musicians at the right place at the right time. To this day I go out of my way to ward people away from that terrible film.

I thought that movie was fun for what it was.

Re: Peter Jackson on how Tolkien stopped a Beatles LOTR film (2021)

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This only would have worked if it was animated. The 1977 Hobbit film which was produced for NBC [1] was a excellent adaptation, and Yellow Submarine is in the same style. I would argue Yellow Submarine also has many of the same themes, if not more absurdist than fantasy. Also fun fact I just realized you can stream Yellow Submarine for free on archive.org [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit_(1977_film) […

How is that film just available for free like that?

Almost any released movie of any note, and a great many of no note are available for free.

Re: Peter Jackson on how Tolkien stopped a Beatles LOTR film (2021)

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post #2

A Hard Day's Night is great because it's basically just them goofing around. The rest of the Beatles films have their charms, but they're not actors. I really can't imagine that the idea was to do a straight LOTR adaptation, it must have been some kind of parody. The whole appeal of the Beatles on screen is that they're funny.

Yesterday painted them as literal Gods, instead of just decent musicians at the right place at the right time. To this day I go out of my way to ward people away from that terrible film.

Did we watch the same movie? It was more about their cultural impact than painting them as gods

Re: Peter Jackson on how Tolkien stopped a Beatles LOTR film (2021)

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This only would have worked if it was animated. The 1977 Hobbit film which was produced for NBC [1] was a excellent adaptation, and Yellow Submarine is in the same style. I would argue Yellow Submarine also has many of the same themes, if not more absurdist than fantasy. Also fun fact I just realized you can stream Yellow Submarine for free on archive.org [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit_(1977_film) […

The Beatles had nothing to do with the production of Yellow Submarine apart from money until the end.

Re: Peter Jackson on how Tolkien stopped a Beatles LOTR film (2021)

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> "Ultimately, they couldn't get the rights from Tolkien, because he didn't like the idea of a pop group doing his story. So it got nixed by him. They tried to do it. There's no doubt about it. I'm a Beatles fan. Tolkien was right to be skeptical, it would have been terrible. No doubt in my mind: campy, perfunctory, self-mocking. Please recall how "nerd" material was treated before the 2000s, if you'd like some prece…

They wanted Kubrick to direct, so it could have been a serious effort (Kubrick declined).

Re: Peter Jackson on how Tolkien stopped a Beatles LOTR film (2021)

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post #23

> "Ultimately, they couldn't get the rights from Tolkien, because he didn't like the idea of a pop group doing his story. So it got nixed by him. They tried to do it. There's no doubt about it. I'm a Beatles fan. Tolkien was right to be skeptical, it would have been terrible. No doubt in my mind: campy, perfunctory, self-mocking. Please recall how "nerd" material was treated before the 2000s, if you'd like some prece…

Sure, but it's wrong that he was able to stop it. We lost what could have been an interesting piece of art. We should have more adaptations in the world not fewer.

It's his own creation. He had every right to stop it. I don't see how this is wrong at all.
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