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Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Post by southernplaces7 »

bingbingbing777 wrote: post #296
fsloth wrote: post #292

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Also good at response. Ozone situation was fixed and now we actually track the asteroids.

Ozone is not fixed because I will still get extremely burnt in the sun here in Australia. Asteroids is not fixed because what happens when one super massive one is coming straight for us?

You do understand that even with a fully normal ozone layer, exposure to the sun can indeed cause burns during certain times of the year and especially in hot, tropical places? Are you expecting magic as a definition of fixed, or something that actually applies to reality?

Much of the climate change discourse on this site strays into the absurdly hysterical, but some of it veers even further into deep childish fantasy.

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Post by kyleblarson »

voisin wrote: post #24
kyleblarson wrote: post #9

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I have a 50kw generac tied into my house with a 1000 gallon propane tank.

What will you do once the propane runs out? Solar (and battery) is the way to go.

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Post by kortilla »

Kerb_ wrote: post #285
salad-tycoon wrote: post #250

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I like the response, seems very astute of an observation. Interpreting this in the worse light possible… in other words, gate keeping. I think a lot more people could understand and be mature in a lot more things if artificial and archaic barriers weren’t erected. I think not trusting the public is a recipe for an obscure elite ruling class. Sure, not a whole lot of people will get it but at least be open about it. T…

I was taught logarithmic scales in middle school. If every concept needs to be dumbed down to a pre-middle school level for maximum accessibility (to minimize gatekeeping), you're going to end up with a public who literally can't comprehend the things they're being told because they stopped learning before middle school.

The average comprehension is grade school level

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Post by hnlmorg »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #366
hnlmorg wrote: post #340

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We neither have a plan to fix the existing ozone hole and nor do we have a way for preventing an asteroid collision (assuming we are lucky enough that the theoretical asteroid that hits us is one of the subset of asteroids we can actually track) So no, neither of those problems are even remotely fixed. We’ve just done the bare minimum to check the “we’ve reacted to a crisis” box.

We do have a way of redirecting an asteroid. The problem is that we won't learn about it early enough for our current level of technology to do anything about it. We'd need 2 fully-operational Starship launches or 4 SLS launches or 10 Delta IV Heavy launches with 25 years notice to redirect an asteroid like Bennu. Now obviously 2 is better than 4 is better than 10. But the 25 years notice is a big problem. The moment…

> The problem is that we won't learn about it early enough for our current level of technology to do anything about it.

And this is exactly my point. We aren’t investing into inventing the technology to do this. Instead we just say “if we can detect a small asteroid early enough then we might be able to divert it” and then count that problem as solved. Even though Bennu is small, we still can’t see the vast majority of objects in the solar system and the advance notice we are talking about is impracticality long.

If this was a software engineering Jira ticket, it wouldn’t pass PR. And software developers aren’t even the most diligent of professionals compared engineers, doctors and scientists. But there’s no incentive for governments to sink money into a theoretical risk that impacts their “enemies” equally. And man do I hate how nations refer to other nations as “enemies” — but that’s a whole other argument.

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Post by komali2 »

quesera wrote: post #276
komali2 wrote: post #265

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I'm not sure if you've read some of FNB's materials they set out at those events, but they should have reading out that defines the mission clearly as one not of charity, but of teaching people to be interdependent within their communities rather than on central governments. FNB is above all else a peaceful anarchist resistance movement. Primarily volunteering with them creates two things that are basically the most…

FWIW, this is light years away from the impression that Food Not Bombs people and activism has left on me over a couple decades of occasional, incidental contact.

That's a shame. I'd be curious generally which area they're in and how they're different over there, I'd want to go and chat and see what's up.

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Post by keepamovin »

cyberax wrote: post #387
keepamovin wrote: post #307

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This is a misconception. The geomagnetic disruption temporarily weakens the earth's magnetic field effectively allowing more charged particles to penetrate the upper atmosphere, and even right down to surface. This upper atmosphere penetration is what causes auroras in fact: the charged solar particles imparting energy to atmospheric gases and compounds through impact, that they re-emit that energy as beautiful light…

Uhm... What is a misconception in my post? I guess electronics can also be affected by a slightly higher flux of cosmic rays, but malfunctions due to cosmic rays are extremely unlikely in any case.

Okay that’s a good question but I’d like you to try to answer it. What do you think is a misconception in your original based on what I said?

It’s not just about cosmic rays. I wasn’t attacking you, and not saying you don’t understand it, just the comment seemed like a misconception about a few things. Haha! :)

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Post by AlecSchueler »

nozzlegear wrote: post #357
AlecSchueler wrote: post #335

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No, trends can be broken.

Though the constant doomerism one encounters when they speculate about breaking such trends can discourage anyone from thinking it’s worth pursuing.

This sounds like a way to free yourself of personal responsibility. "We could have done so much if the doomsayers hadn't discouraged us!"
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