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Re: Show HN: A web debugger an ex-Cloudflare team has been working on for 4 years

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I've definitely felt this problem! Web app development can feel like 'playing detective' and chasing down lines more than problem solving. I'd download right now but will it help debug chrome extensions?

Ooh we’ve considered building a Jam for debugging extensions (honestly it would really help us to have that!). We should!

Re: Show HN: A web debugger an ex-Cloudflare team has been working on for 4 years

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Nice work! Suggestions 1)Jam requires being on a website page to load, which might not always align with how users interact with browser extensions, often using them independently of a webpage 2) Wouild be nice to have an option to record two windows 3) Visibility of the extension popup in recordings when sharing a browser window - I can see extension popup open on the recording only when I share the entire screen Th…

That is amazing to hear!! Thanks for giving us a try.

1 - that’s so true, hadn’t considered that. Thank you!

2 - yes! Right now we just have window vs desktop but definitely there’s more to be done there

3 - +1

Great feedback thank you!

Re: Show HN: A web debugger an ex-Cloudflare team has been working on for 4 years

#213

Looks great! Heads up, for the `Backend Tracing` screenshot there's a typo, it reads "enviroment" with the missing 'n' and on the AI debugger page on narrower screens the bubble for the "Learn more about JamGPT" text doesn't fit the text.

Thank you!!

Re: Show HN: A web debugger an ex-Cloudflare team has been working on for 4 years

#214

Really cool product. One of those ideas/things that seems to just be "obvious" after the fact. Especially in the realm of bug reports which are very tedious to submit. Kinda inspiring me to try and look around me for similar problems to solve.

That’s so nice to hear, excited to see which problem you end up on!

Re: Show HN: A web debugger an ex-Cloudflare team has been working on for 4 years

#215
post #43

Too cheap. It seems extremely inexpensive. Even though it's not a direct comparison, look at https://www.hotjar.com/pricing/ (and switch to the "pay by month" pricing view)

"Suspiciously cheap" is on-brand for an ex-Cloudflare team

I wouldn't call charging $5/user "cheap" when a user might cost a few cents. Pure software services are supposed to have insane COGS. The free tier may eventually get reduced, but with something like this you have basically no lock-in, so I wouldn't consider that a meaningful risk.

Re: Show HN: A web debugger an ex-Cloudflare team has been working on for 4 years

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post #203

I love the look of this tool and will be recommending our QA team take a look. However, I would like to encourage you to make SSO free and available to everyone. Better security should be a focus for everyone, not just those on an "Enterprise" plan. Tailscale recently had a great blog post about their SSO tax journey[0]. Please don't get added to the SSO Wall Of Shame[1]. [0] https://tailscale.com/blog/sso-tax-cut [1…

Great feedback, thank you! Our philosophy on pricing is to try and only make what real companies who can pay need, and offer what individuals and hobbyists and small startups need for for free, so that’s why SSO ended up a paid feature. But it’s great feedback for us - thank you!

The benefits of SSO kick in way faster than you'd think, in some cases before you even have a company, much less revenue. I could easily see a Hackerspace wanting SSO, for example, and adding an SSO tax of fifty dollars a month would double membership costs. Then there's stuff like https://twitter.com/NireBryce/status/1564100084652036096.

Re: Show HN: A web debugger an ex-Cloudflare team has been working on for 4 years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah sure but this is tool for internal use

Agree, it's a debugging tool for what users see, and users see your app on WebKit in Safari. So agree, the PdM should not be using Chrome. I suggested the Kagi Orion path elsewhere in this comment page too, since that would give the PdM extensions, while still seeing what users see.

But with a fork of WebKit? I don’t think another fork is all that helpful in the context of trying to fix a bug.

Re: Show HN: A web debugger an ex-Cloudflare team has been working on for 4 years

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Does anyone have any stats on how successful these small niche tool shops are from the business perspective? On the one hand $8/mo is pretty negligible. But on the other people will go to great lengths to not have “yet another subscription”. If we run some math a shop of 10 people in the US is at least $2.5M in just comp outlay per year, all in (meaning the entire comp package, not just net pay). At 96 bucks per year that’s about 26K users (assuming zero marketing expenses and zero cost of accepting payment) which idk if that’s realistic or not for a nice to have tool like this. What’s the business plan here? Is there a business plan?

Re: Show HN: A web debugger an ex-Cloudflare team has been working on for 4 years

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post #218

Does anyone have any stats on how successful these small niche tool shops are from the business perspective? On the one hand $8/mo is pretty negligible. But on the other people will go to great lengths to not have “yet another subscription”. If we run some math a shop of 10 people in the US is at least $2.5M in just comp outlay per year, all in (meaning the entire comp package, not just net pay). At 96 bucks per year…

You don’t need 10 people to run this business in 2024. They could definitely do it with half that. They could probably do it with 2 people.

If they do staff up (eg if they have raised capital) they will eventually go up market or into adjacent markets.

That said, there are millions of software developers in the world. They can probably find 26k customers.

Re: Show HN: A web debugger an ex-Cloudflare team has been working on for 4 years

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post #218

Does anyone have any stats on how successful these small niche tool shops are from the business perspective? On the one hand $8/mo is pretty negligible. But on the other people will go to great lengths to not have “yet another subscription”. If we run some math a shop of 10 people in the US is at least $2.5M in just comp outlay per year, all in (meaning the entire comp package, not just net pay). At 96 bucks per year…

You don’t need 10 people to run this business in 2024. They could definitely do it with half that. They could probably do it with 2 people. If they do staff up (eg if they have raised capital) they will eventually go up market or into adjacent markets. That said, there are millions of software developers in the world. They can probably find 26k customers.

I used 10 as a nice round number. You can scale it up or down with linear effects on the rest of this napkin math. Their careers page by the way has 8 open positions as of the time of this writing. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying this isn’t viable, I’d just like to understand how.
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