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Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

bonton89 wrote: post #88
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #47

I can switch the camera in my car to replace the normal mirror. This is useful when the trunk is full. I hate it, though, because it forces your eyes to quickly and repeatedly adapt to short vision (the image is close to you), then again on the road etc. There is no such a problem with the normal mirror which shows objects far away so you you don't need to adapt when switching between forward and back view

I bought one of those well reviewed mirror dash cameras and it replaced the center rear view mirror. I hated it and returned it because this extra visual burden and couldn't understand why anyone liked these. When backing up out of a parking space I much prefer the turnaround method since I lose all my periphery vision that keeps from backing up into the path of other vehicles or people, etc. My back up camera even h…

I use the side mirrors and the camera to park. Taken how our parking spaces are narrow in France, this was for me the best combination.

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Post by beretguy »

nozzlegear wrote: post #90
beretguy wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s no need to invent anything. We are already living in dystopia.

Maybe you are, I put my phone down every now and then though and choose to “touch grass” as the kids say. Things aren’t so bad.

Maybe I am? You enjoy being snarky?

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Post by killingtime74 »

blitzar wrote: post #86
killingtime74 wrote: post #81

I find it interesting that it's called a Swedish car company when it's owned by a Chinese car company and none of its cars are produced in Sweden. Is national attribution of companies meaningless? Maybe every company should open an office in Sweden and call itself Swedish.

Apple doesnt make its products in the US, people consider that a US company.

I guess Steve Jobs and Woz are both American, listed on Nasdaq and the staff are in the US.

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Post by zaphirplane »

afavour wrote: post #83
unixhero wrote: post #61

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Wow youre missing out, car is such a fundamental freedom enabler - of movement

Man, that’s just not true. I live in NYC and the number of things accessible to me and my family via public transit or bike is mind boggling. Then, when we want to leave the city for a few days we rent a car. Costs less than car insurance would be over a year, let alone maintainence, upfront cost, etc. Everyone can live their life in the way of their own choosing, I don’t begrudge anyone who owns a car or anything li…

Groceries for a household with 4+ people I imagine is impossible to take home for 1 person by public transport

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Post by zaphirplane »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #116
Gud wrote: post #101

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Let me ask you this, how much do you drive? Although I don’t drive much anymore, just daily to and from work, there were periods I would have to drive 250-800km twice per week to get to site(Sweden is a pretty big country). The rear view mirror is absolute advantage. It’s the only way to know wtf is going on right behind you.

Well, for one, I believe they’re using a digital mirror so the practical purpose of the rear view window is still present. I actually don’t use the rear view most days when driving. I’m planning to put a camper on my truck that would block the rear windows. Been giving it a test to make sure I’m okay without the read. For the most part, I don’t really miss it. I have found that some small cars that ride my bumper ten…

What you say applies for the majority of driving time, but the question really is how it performs when a driver is in a situation with high risk of an accident.

Glancing , peripheral , situational awareness is important to avoid accidents. The once a couple of years situation

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Post by magicalhippo »

_xerces_ wrote: post #115
magicalhippo wrote: post #9

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On the flip side, camera rear view can have automatic gain, so you can see much better in the dark. It can also have a better view due to placement. And as a bonus, no need to adjust between drivers. My car has both in a combined unit, flip down for regular mirror and up for camera. While I initially thought it would be a gimmick, it didn't take me long to realize I preferred the camera view. That said I wouldn't wan…

Why is there no need to adjust between drivers? If the mirror/screen is set for me, my wife will still need to adjust for optimal viewing.

Look at your computer screen. Now move your head a foot to the side and look at it. Yes there will be some difference but unless you have a privacy filter it should be quite easy to view the screen still.

Same for the rear view screen/mirror assembly. The viewing angle at which it it's fine to watch in screen-mode is considerable. In mirror-mode it has to be very close to function as intended.

My SO is about a head shorter than me, and likes to sit in a quite different position. Yet for us the screen-mode works fine without adjustment. When using the mirror there's a significant adjustment needed. I guess for other couples it might need adjustment regardless, but I imagine for many it will be fine in screen-mode.

Though I have no idea how much it varies between cars though. Could be ours has a wider viewing angle than other cars.

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Post by citiguy »

afavour wrote: post #83
unixhero wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow youre missing out, car is such a fundamental freedom enabler - of movement

Man, that’s just not true. I live in NYC and the number of things accessible to me and my family via public transit or bike is mind boggling. Then, when we want to leave the city for a few days we rent a car. Costs less than car insurance would be over a year, let alone maintainence, upfront cost, etc. Everyone can live their life in the way of their own choosing, I don’t begrudge anyone who owns a car or anything li…

I live in NYC (Upper East Side in Manhattan) and I don't think I could live without a car. It's just so nice to be able to leave whenever you want. On your schedule, in your own private space. I don't drive around in the city - driving here is stressful and a huge drag. But if you ever want to go hiking or biking outside the city, or leave for any reason, having your own car is a blessing.

I'm not saying you'll save money by owning a car here, that's definitely not true. It's a luxury item in this city. But it is very nice to have one at your disposal.

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Post by citiguy »

zaphirplane wrote: post #124
afavour wrote: post #83

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Man, that’s just not true. I live in NYC and the number of things accessible to me and my family via public transit or bike is mind boggling. Then, when we want to leave the city for a few days we rent a car. Costs less than car insurance would be over a year, let alone maintainence, upfront cost, etc. Everyone can live their life in the way of their own choosing, I don’t begrudge anyone who owns a car or anything li…

Groceries for a household with 4+ people I imagine is impossible to take home for 1 person by public transport

Most places deliver for free (or a minimal charge), so this isn't a big deal.

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Post by citiguy »

dotBen wrote: post #91
afavour wrote: post #83

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Man, that’s just not true. I live in NYC and the number of things accessible to me and my family via public transit or bike is mind boggling. Then, when we want to leave the city for a few days we rent a car. Costs less than car insurance would be over a year, let alone maintainence, upfront cost, etc. Everyone can live their life in the way of their own choosing, I don’t begrudge anyone who owns a car or anything li…

New York is really the only exception in the US to this - world class public transportation system both within downtown areas and out to the suburbs and beyond (Acella is what all of AmTrak should have been like). Even here in San Francisco you need a car to get around efficiently (or use Uber which comes to a point where you might as well pay for a car), plus it's impossible to fully enjoy the natural beauty further…

Well, I wouldn't go that far. The Acella sucks if you have to depend on it. As does Amtrak. It's expensive and crappy. Public transportation is designed for getting people from the boroughs into the city center, not the other way around. If you use public trans for leaving the city it's very difficult to get from the train station to your final destination, there's just so few options.

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Post by nozzlegear »

beretguy wrote: post #122
nozzlegear wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you are, I put my phone down every now and then though and choose to “touch grass” as the kids say. Things aren’t so bad.

Maybe I am? You enjoy being snarky?

Just pointing out that while you apparently feel you're living in a dystopia, I don't feel the same. Things aren't perfect but they're definitely not dystopian from my point of view. And come on, who doesn't enjoy being snarky now and then?
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