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Apple finalizing deal with OpenAI to bring ChatGPT features to iOS 18

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Re: Apple finalizing deal with OpenAI to bring ChatGPT features to iOS 18

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Post by Xenoamorphous »

MisterBiggs wrote: post #5

I have a hard time believing this since everything Apple has been releasing in the AI space points towards running models locally.

I see a lot of talk in HN about how Apple running models on the device is such a great idea, for privacy reasons.

However I feel like outside of a few niches like HN, people don’t give a damn about privacy (for example, the company I work for has a website with millions of daily unique visitors; GDPR consent rates are usually around 98%).

So if other phones use models running on the cloud and they’re higher quality than the local running ones in iPhones (which will prob be smaller) that might be more important to the average user.

Re: Apple finalizing deal with OpenAI to bring ChatGPT features to iOS 18

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Post by ghaff »

ok_dad wrote: post #24

I really don’t want this in my phone unless I choose to have it, and right now I’m pretty upset that Siri can’t be fully disabled in one switch, but I’ll really be much more upset if I have to have ‘Open’AI forced into my life. I truly don’t know what to do today, other than not having a phone, in order to get privacy and a phone that works without any BS.

There are still feature phones. Of course that cuts you off from anything that needs an app.

Re: Apple finalizing deal with OpenAI to bring ChatGPT features to iOS 18

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Post by DeathArrow »

anonylizard wrote: post #20
DeathArrow wrote: post #19

Why aren't they using open source models like Llama3?

Like have you checked the license of Llama3? Who told you it was free for all commercial use? Most open source licenses by big companies these days, are anti-big-tech. Aka anyone can use them but big tech. "If, on the Meta Llama 3 version release date, the monthly active users of the products or services made available by or for Licensee, or Licensee’s affiliates, is greater than 700 million monthly active users in t…

Thanks, that explains it. I didn't read the license.

Re: Apple finalizing deal with OpenAI to bring ChatGPT features to iOS 18

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Post by ghaff »

ThisIsAWhatWhat wrote: post #29
ok_dad wrote: post #24

I really don’t want this in my phone unless I choose to have it, and right now I’m pretty upset that Siri can’t be fully disabled in one switch, but I’ll really be much more upset if I have to have ‘Open’AI forced into my life. I truly don’t know what to do today, other than not having a phone, in order to get privacy and a phone that works without any BS.

I'm still using my original SE, and I have Siri turned off. I don't remember it being a hassle. I'd prefer that Apple stop removing valuable functionality and replacing it with junk. The removal of the headphone jack and Touch ID have deterred me from buying a new iPhone. I'm writing an mobile app right now, and I'm targeting iOS 15 so I can run it on my own phone. This requires some non-trivial workarounds to insuff…

Missed calls are junk more often than not. They fall into the vast category of things I don’t want notifications for.

Re: Apple finalizing deal with OpenAI to bring ChatGPT features to iOS 18

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Post by hackernewds »

bamboozled wrote: post #28
ok_dad wrote: post #24

I really don’t want this in my phone unless I choose to have it, and right now I’m pretty upset that Siri can’t be fully disabled in one switch, but I’ll really be much more upset if I have to have ‘Open’AI forced into my life. I truly don’t know what to do today, other than not having a phone, in order to get privacy and a phone that works without any BS.

I immediately thought the same, I don’t want it. I personally don’t find ChatGPT very useful. Let’s just hope it’s opt out.

Curious why not?

Re: Apple finalizing deal with OpenAI to bring ChatGPT features to iOS 18

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Post by kfarr »

Xenoamorphous wrote: post #31
MisterBiggs wrote: post #5

I have a hard time believing this since everything Apple has been releasing in the AI space points towards running models locally.

I see a lot of talk in HN about how Apple running models on the device is such a great idea, for privacy reasons. However I feel like outside of a few niches like HN, people don’t give a damn about privacy (for example, the company I work for has a website with millions of daily unique visitors; GDPR consent rates are usually around 98%). So if other phones use models running on the cloud and they’re higher quality t…

They’re not mutually exclusive. Local model can provide immediate answer with medium quality, remote can provide higher quality but longer round trip

But anything is better than old school Siri

Re: Apple finalizing deal with OpenAI to bring ChatGPT features to iOS 18

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Post by tropicalbeach »

bamboozled wrote: post #28
ok_dad wrote: post #24

I really don’t want this in my phone unless I choose to have it, and right now I’m pretty upset that Siri can’t be fully disabled in one switch, but I’ll really be much more upset if I have to have ‘Open’AI forced into my life. I truly don’t know what to do today, other than not having a phone, in order to get privacy and a phone that works without any BS.

I immediately thought the same, I don’t want it. I personally don’t find ChatGPT very useful. Let’s just hope it’s opt out.

People like this live in the stone age

Re: Apple finalizing deal with OpenAI to bring ChatGPT features to iOS 18

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Post by osigurdson »

I used Siri for a while, then laughed how bad it was compared to Google, then turned it off (also unplugged Google home spying thing and Amazon spying thing, now in same box as Wii). Maybe this will turn things around, but I probably will never turn Siri on again as it will always been at best equally as good as ChatGPT, so why bother?
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