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Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by SuperNinKenDo »

BoingBoomTschak wrote: post #44

Just a notice that all Blu-Rays of the 95 GITS are completely and hopelessly mangled (cropped, blurred and black crushed). The only "good" version is an old HDTV rip that was hand-remastered by Judgment; but with heavy smoothing in the process, a film grain shader to mask this is recommended. BD: http://comp.judging.it/content/Koukaku%20Kidoutai/1080p-3/BD... HDTV: http://comp.judging.it/content/Koukaku%20Kidoutai/10…

That's beyond heartbreaking. Everything is somehow getting worse but I'd held out hope that something universally considered a masterpiece might get better treatment. Do you know if a better release exists in Japan?

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by npinsker »

YurgenJurgensen wrote: post #46
nanna wrote: post #4

I feel like I haven't seen an anime in years that's been in the same league as Akira or the great Miyazakis (Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, Totoro). Yes i'd be brutal and include Miyazakis following works in that list, from Howls Moving Castle to The Boy and the Heron. Ive seen lots of incredible animation, sure, but nothing like the cinematic depth. What am I missing? What should an old fart who's becoming convin…

All these people giving recs are doing it wrong. You can determine if an anime is worth your time by merely looking at the title and what the source material is and the following simple system: Candidates start with 5 points. If they have a positive score after applying the system, they're at least worth checking out (although they will not necessarily be good). If not, you are likely wasting your time. 1) Every word…

Actually an amazing heuristic, double-jeopardy-ing isekais gives me confidence in your taste. Would love to hear some recs of yours if you have any.

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by blarg1 »

gbuk2013 wrote: post #22
justinclift wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I wrote a whole list a few comments up (or down). You can't miss it. :) As a quick thought, have you seen Cyberpunk Edgerunners, and Made in Abyss? For stupid fun (mood dependent), then probably One-Punch Man: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Punch_Man It's super famous these days, so you've probably already seen it. ;) Personally, I also really liked "Hai to Gensou no Grimgar" due to its focus on character gr…

Cyberpunk Edgerunners was good, Made in Abyss was too but I have to say it got borderline too depressing for me by the end of the last season. OPM I really can't stand - dropped it just after a few episodes. :) Hai to Gensou no Grimgar had a lot of promise with a different take on the common theme, but pity it looks like it will not be continued. :(

I read 9 or so of the grimgar books, the story became really stupid until I had to give up. The anime ended at the right time.

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by doublepg23 »

xorbax wrote: post #68
YurgenJurgensen wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That something is acetate.

This is why I think Akira can't be surpassed. Not just because it was done on acetate, but because of the level of skill and consideration required to animate that way. You can't just undo that brush stroke onto the cel and try something else. As much as technology has democratized the field, I think it also lowers the heights. I desperately hope I'm wrong and just old, but I haven't met someone who puts up something…

I think the democratization means the heights won't be big-budget corporate things, they'll be on YouTube or Patreon.

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by blarg1 »

nanna wrote: post #4

I feel like I haven't seen an anime in years that's been in the same league as Akira or the great Miyazakis (Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, Totoro). Yes i'd be brutal and include Miyazakis following works in that list, from Howls Moving Castle to The Boy and the Heron. Ive seen lots of incredible animation, sure, but nothing like the cinematic depth. What am I missing? What should an old fart who's becoming convin…

The Sky Crawlers,

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by Gigablah »

mauvia wrote: post #31
nanna wrote: post #4

I feel like I haven't seen an anime in years that's been in the same league as Akira or the great Miyazakis (Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, Totoro). Yes i'd be brutal and include Miyazakis following works in that list, from Howls Moving Castle to The Boy and the Heron. Ive seen lots of incredible animation, sure, but nothing like the cinematic depth. What am I missing? What should an old fart who's becoming convin…

Have you tried any of Satoshi Kon's movies? Tokyo Godfathers is an amazing and deeply human christmas comedy about homeless people in the Tokyo streets, filled with magical moments of cinematography. Paprika is a less lighthearted story about inner lives, dreams and ambitions set across a sci fi backdrop where people are learning to enter each other's dreams and link them together. It has gorgeous dreamscapes and an…

Satoshi Kon’s Millennium Actress is one of the best movies I have ever seen.

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by BoingBoomTschak »

SuperNinKenDo wrote: post #71
BoingBoomTschak wrote: post #44

Just a notice that all Blu-Rays of the 95 GITS are completely and hopelessly mangled (cropped, blurred and black crushed). The only "good" version is an old HDTV rip that was hand-remastered by Judgment; but with heavy smoothing in the process, a film grain shader to mask this is recommended. BD: http://comp.judging.it/content/Koukaku%20Kidoutai/1080p-3/BD... HDTV: http://comp.judging.it/content/Koukaku%20Kidoutai/10…

That's beyond heartbreaking. Everything is somehow getting worse but I'd held out hope that something universally considered a masterpiece might get better treatment. Do you know if a better release exists in Japan?

My wooden peg leg and the parrot on my experienced and still active privateer shoulder tell me no.

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by Der_Einzige »

chambers wrote: post #21

I rewatched Ghost in the Shell recently and I was struck by how poorly it aged. Its animation holds up but its story felt weaker than I remembered. Like the director reached for something deep, couldn't get ahold of it, and then covered his tracks behind wordy philosophy.

I don't understand this at all. It's a story about model merging. The stuff in that movie is more pertinent than ever!

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by chpatrick »

duggan wrote: post #16
cjk2 wrote: post #6

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There is good stuff out there. I watched Pantheon and Scavengers Reign recently, both excellent, but not old stable anime. Scavengers Reign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWQH8cMpWTU Pantheon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_HJ3TSlo5c

I’m slowly working my way through Scavengers Reign, it’s absolutely brilliant — somewhere between Alien and Stanislaw Lem’s The Invincible.

It reminded me of Lem's Eden as well.

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by hwbunny »

maxglute wrote: post #47
Shinchy wrote: post #34

I'm not sure what others are saying, I re-watched Ghost in the Shell again recently and I had forgotten just how brilliant it is. There is something pure about it that you just don't find in modern anime, something that really resonated.

Every part of GiS has been, per article "endlessly ripped off, referenced and remixed". Whatever one liked about original GiS, there's a derivation out there that turns dial to 11 and makes the original feel basic in retrospect. But that's testimony to GiS greatness.

Any examples that make GiS inferior to a copycat?
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