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Eurovision statistics analysis, and an apology to the people of Malta

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Re: Eurovision statistics analysis, and an apology to the people of Malta

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I'm sorry but that song by Sweden was just awful. Ok, not as bad as the singing grannies from Russian but still awful.

Pretty much every song was hilariously bad to the point where I think everyone was trying to lose so they didn't have to host it next year.

The whole tournament is hilariously bad. It's hard to believe anyone takes it seriously.

Could you imagine the headlines if Greece won? "Germany hosts Eurovision 2013...in Greece." and so on.

Re: Eurovision statistics analysis, and an apology to the people of Malta

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I'm sorry but that song by Sweden was just awful. Ok, not as bad as the singing grannies from Russian but still awful.

Here in Sweden it has already been played way too much on the radio, so imagine my horror when we won :( Now they'll play it even more...

Re: Eurovision statistics analysis, and an apology to the people of Malta

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty much every song was hilariously bad to the point where I think everyone was trying to lose so they didn't have to host it next year.

The whole tournament is hilariously bad. It's hard to believe anyone takes it seriously. Could you imagine the headlines if Greece won? "Germany hosts Eurovision 2013...in Greece." and so on.

I believe Spain asked not to win.

Re: Eurovision statistics analysis, and an apology to the people of Malta

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty much every song was hilariously bad to the point where I think everyone was trying to lose so they didn't have to host it next year.

The whole tournament is hilariously bad. It's hard to believe anyone takes it seriously. Could you imagine the headlines if Greece won? "Germany hosts Eurovision 2013...in Greece." and so on.

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Re: Eurovision statistics analysis, and an apology to the people of Malta

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty much every song was hilariously bad to the point where I think everyone was trying to lose so they didn't have to host it next year.

The whole tournament is hilariously bad. It's hard to believe anyone takes it seriously. Could you imagine the headlines if Greece won? "Germany hosts Eurovision 2013...in Greece." and so on.

Well, most west of Bryssel don't 'get' the EuroVison. I keep seeing it (using my kids as an excuse) but I usually don't like the music. So why is it so popular? Maybe it's a cold war thing? We who lived at the border to the Iron curtain have a rather different view to the eastern europe than Uk. So to compete with them in a 'no big deal' contest is relaxing (no war this year). The voting is part of the game and could maybe be done in several other ways if one truly consider the outcome to be important, which is not. To participate is the goal.

(as a side note, swedes always give the 8/10/12p to the song that in some way could have some connection to Sweden, this year the Cyprus contribution was written by two swedes I think)

Re: Eurovision statistics analysis, and an apology to the people of Malta

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I think there's another variable the model can't really account for (and I'm surprised wasn't mentioned much in the article, though perhaps it was already covered previously). People actually do like some songs better than others. I expect that what friendships actually do is strongly modulate this like/dislike for particular songs. Based on the kind of music favoured in Europe that would probably go a long way expla…

In earlier articles the "quality" of the song was in fact accounted for - if a song did better in the semi finals than its position within the network of countries giving each other points by default warranted, it was considered to be a better song. That said, while the predictions had Sweden on top, it also had Norway in third place. Obviously the effect of a song being good isn't as strong as this model thinks. The…

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Re: Eurovision statistics analysis, and an apology to the people of Malta

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I'm sorry but that song by Sweden was just awful. Ok, not as bad as the singing grannies from Russian but still awful.

Obviously Eurovision is something of a subgenre which is more about its own "brand" of music rather than for established artists (otherwise we'd just send Robyn and win every year). If you see it as the Pride festival for music it makes a lot more sense. Feel free to vote this post UP-UP-UP-UP

Re: Eurovision statistics analysis, and an apology to the people of Malta

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole tournament is hilariously bad. It's hard to believe anyone takes it seriously. Could you imagine the headlines if Greece won? "Germany hosts Eurovision 2013...in Greece." and so on.

Well, most west of Bryssel don't 'get' the EuroVison. I keep seeing it (using my kids as an excuse) but I usually don't like the music. So why is it so popular? Maybe it's a cold war thing? We who lived at the border to the Iron curtain have a rather different view to the eastern europe than Uk. So to compete with them in a 'no big deal' contest is relaxing (no war this year). The voting is part of the game and could…

This year, 10 out of the 26 songs were written by Swedes, so it's kind of hard for us to avoid voting for them.

Re: Eurovision statistics analysis, and an apology to the people of Malta

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I'm sorry but that song by Sweden was just awful. Ok, not as bad as the singing grannies from Russian but still awful.

Here in Sweden it has already been played way too much on the radio, so imagine my horror when we won :( Now they'll play it even more...

you just need to do what Ireland did in 2008 and do a Swedish version of Dustin the turkey with "Irlande Douze Pointe"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mogesoyp8HY

Re: Eurovision statistics analysis, and an apology to the people of Malta

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, most west of Bryssel don't 'get' the EuroVison. I keep seeing it (using my kids as an excuse) but I usually don't like the music. So why is it so popular? Maybe it's a cold war thing? We who lived at the border to the Iron curtain have a rather different view to the eastern europe than Uk. So to compete with them in a 'no big deal' contest is relaxing (no war this year). The voting is part of the game and could…

This year, 10 out of the 26 songs were written by Swedes, so it's kind of hard for us to avoid voting for them.

I was thinking more longterm, since the televoting started swedes have a trend to vote for songs/artist that have a connection to Sweden and not for just being a song from a neighbour.
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