WWV 15 mhz is way down in Chicagoland at 19:03z. 10 mhz extremely faint.
Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs
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Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs
#72Can you really call yourself a prepper if you don’t have a faraday cage with a spare laptop inside? (The intersection of doomerism and tech is amusingly cyberpunk sometimes.) Actually, what’s the most useful way you’d prepare for a worldwide grid outage? This isn’t that, but sometimes I wonder if a future CME might be as catastrophic as some say.
> Actually, what’s the most useful way you’d prepare for a worldwide grid outage?
Read One Second After by William R. Forstchen. It's probably the most accurate description of what may happen.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4922079-one-second-after
Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs
#73Can you really call yourself a prepper if you don’t have a faraday cage with a spare laptop inside? (The intersection of doomerism and tech is amusingly cyberpunk sometimes.) Actually, what’s the most useful way you’d prepare for a worldwide grid outage? This isn’t that, but sometimes I wonder if a future CME might be as catastrophic as some say.
> Actually, what’s the most useful way you’d prepare for a worldwide grid outage? Be on a government payroll and have the skills necessary to repair the damage.
Part of what makes me take prepping seriously is that the majority of payments are electronic now and there is no failover as far as I'm aware. In ~2015 I saw a power outage briefly take down the payment processsor at a grocery store. despite having cash I could not check out.
If something like that happens but sustained long enough to cause a mob to loot the store (which the media would of course amplify), it wouldn't be long before there was widespread panic.
It's not the CME itself that terrifies me, but the knock-on effects.
Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs
#74Can you really call yourself a prepper if you don’t have a faraday cage with a spare laptop inside? (The intersection of doomerism and tech is amusingly cyberpunk sometimes.) Actually, what’s the most useful way you’d prepare for a worldwide grid outage? This isn’t that, but sometimes I wonder if a future CME might be as catastrophic as some say.
World wide grid outage prep? Assuming transformers out continent wide? That's very bad imo. One of the hardest to prepare for. Cities will be impossible.
A year of food stored and a really good place to hide from the hordes that want it. Very difficult imo.
Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs
#75Can you really call yourself a prepper if you don’t have a faraday cage with a spare laptop inside? (The intersection of doomerism and tech is amusingly cyberpunk sometimes.) Actually, what’s the most useful way you’d prepare for a worldwide grid outage? This isn’t that, but sometimes I wonder if a future CME might be as catastrophic as some say.
Not joking, I have LTO tapes in an ammo can.
Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Try days, not months. Especially in densely populated areas.
You do realize humanity has had countless famines before right? I grant you, a few of them brought out a regrettable side of humanity but by and large people come together during times of hardship, they don't tear each other apart. I feel like only those who've never felt hunger could contemplate such a savage reaction.
It's an understatement to say that only "a few" famines have brought out a regrettable side of humanity. The situation is very similar to a war. Remember that the rate of violent death was much higher before agriculture and farming were invented. A breakdown of infrastructure would bring us closer to our natural condition from those times. Accepting that doesn't require anyone to be a misanthropist or a cynic about human value.
Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs
#77Can you really call yourself a prepper if you don’t have a faraday cage with a spare laptop inside? (The intersection of doomerism and tech is amusingly cyberpunk sometimes.) Actually, what’s the most useful way you’d prepare for a worldwide grid outage? This isn’t that, but sometimes I wonder if a future CME might be as catastrophic as some say.
>Can you really call yourself a prepper if you don’t have a faraday cage with a spare laptop inside?
What do you call someone who puts their tablet and phone in the microwave? Preppy?
Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ignoring unrealistic preparations for most of us (such as bunkers and whatever else), an adequate supply of food and water to handle disruptions to logistics for a realistic amount of time must surely be the lowest hanging fruit (e.g. a month?). This is fairly trivial if you aim for things like rice and pasta, and if the grid goes down for longer than a month a lot of us are dying regardless of how we prepare.
The water seems like the hard part. Are there any tricks for cheap, safe hydration for a family? I guess we could just start building walls of unopened water bottles in our basement… (In my teens I saw a family friend had a bag full of food supplies. I asked someone if that was a prep bag, and they said yes. I thought they were a bit weird. Now I’ve come full circle browsing Amazon for cheap doomsday food.)
A bag of pool shock and how to use it safely to treat water is fairly easy and cheap.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
You do realize humanity has had countless famines before right? I grant you, a few of them brought out a regrettable side of humanity but by and large people come together during times of hardship, they don't tear each other apart. I feel like only those who've never felt hunger could contemplate such a savage reaction.
And I hope you realize China had multiple famines with cannibalistic events as recent as 1959: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine
I hope you realize that about a million people died during the Irish great famine with almost no events of cannibalism. Suggesting that it's a normal occurrence during famine is very insulting to the character of those that survived those famines while still upholding basic human decency.
Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Actually, what’s the most useful way you’d prepare for a worldwide grid outage? Be on a government payroll and have the skills necessary to repair the damage.
Part of what makes me take prepping seriously is that the majority of payments are electronic now and there is no failover as far as I'm aware. In ~2015 I saw a power outage briefly take down the payment processsor at a grocery store. despite having cash I could not check out. If something like that happens but sustained long enough to cause a mob to loot the store (which the media would of course amplify), it wouldn…
It's really too bad we didn't have a major CME in the 90's. That was the perfect time for a good lesson in redundancy and why you can't and shouldn't jettison "the old ways" so quickly. Perhaps its not too late now, but the pain will be considerably higher. Earth lucked out in so many ways, but a CME spanking in the 1990's is asking for too much I guess.