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Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Post by komali2 »

steve1977 wrote: post #44
voisin wrote: post #22

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Best way to prep is strong community connections around you. Community is resiliency.

Just be aware that what looks like a strong community can quickly turn into something else once the sh* hits the fan...

Practice makes perfect. Highly recommend finding your local food not bombs cohort or visiting one in a nearby city and then starting your own back home.

Community resiliency is a natural instinct it seems. Rebecca solnit's "paradise built in hell" is a fascinating read on the subject.

Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Post by 7952 »

ryandrake wrote: post #28
voisin wrote: post #22

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Best way to prep is strong community connections around you. Community is resiliency.

LOL we saw how that played out with COVID. 1/2 your "community" is going to deny the disaster and deliberately worsen it. 1/2 (with some overlap) is going to go from grocery store to grocery store buying all the necessities to resell them later. EDIT: Wow, I know HN wears rose-colored glasses when looking at the past, but come on, people. We didn't hallucinate the antimaskers, antivaxxers, and thousands of protestors…

Maybe that is what you get when you replace social obligation with money and apps. That kind of existence was common in America and increased during covid. And it is a terrible model for situations where people actually need each other in a reciprocal way.

Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Post by marcosdumay »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #3

Can you really call yourself a prepper if you don’t have a faraday cage with a spare laptop inside? (The intersection of doomerism and tech is amusingly cyberpunk sometimes.) Actually, what’s the most useful way you’d prepare for a worldwide grid outage? This isn’t that, but sometimes I wonder if a future CME might be as catastrophic as some say.

Just reminding that you don't need a Faraday cage to protect against giant coronal mass ejections. You just need to unplug from the grid.

Even the grid is probably fine if it's unplugged from transmission.

Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Post by Marsymars »

pennomi wrote: post #36
sillysaurusx wrote: post #20

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The water seems like the hard part. Are there any tricks for cheap, safe hydration for a family? I guess we could just start building walls of unopened water bottles in our basement… (In my teens I saw a family friend had a bag full of food supplies. I asked someone if that was a prep bag, and they said yes. I thought they were a bit weird. Now I’ve come full circle browsing Amazon for cheap doomsday food.)

Backpacking water filters aren’t all that expensive and work fine with most water sources. Wouldn’t produce enough to shower in but certainly enough that you could survive in a disaster.

I've got an assortment of backpacking/camping water filters, but don't live especially near a water source, so my days would revolve around walks to the nearest creek. (2 km away) A cargo bike would help a lot there.

If the municipal water is still functional but non-potable, a LifeStraw Max gets you effectively unlimited water on-demand for most sources of contamination.

Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Post by komali2 »

bigDinosaur wrote: post #8
sillysaurusx wrote: post #3

Can you really call yourself a prepper if you don’t have a faraday cage with a spare laptop inside? (The intersection of doomerism and tech is amusingly cyberpunk sometimes.) Actually, what’s the most useful way you’d prepare for a worldwide grid outage? This isn’t that, but sometimes I wonder if a future CME might be as catastrophic as some say.

Ignoring unrealistic preparations for most of us (such as bunkers and whatever else), an adequate supply of food and water to handle disruptions to logistics for a realistic amount of time must surely be the lowest hanging fruit (e.g. a month?). This is fairly trivial if you aim for things like rice and pasta, and if the grid goes down for longer than a month a lot of us are dying regardless of how we prepare.

Also trash bags to shit in. Put it in your toilet, close the lid on it, boom you can shit in the comfort of your bathroom in a relatively sanitary way.

Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Post by csteubs »

voisin wrote: post #24
kyleblarson wrote: post #9

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I have a 50kw generac tied into my house with a 1000 gallon propane tank.

What will you do once the propane runs out? Solar (and battery) is the way to go.

Not OP, but I use solar and H8-size AGM batteries as primary with a backup diesel generator that I've converted to run on wood gas (and occasionally coal gas). Added a triple stage water filter to the gasifier last year to keep the tar and creosote down. The generator is an old clunker but it's easy to disassemble, which made it an ideal candidate for tinkering and the eventual retrofit.

Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Post by N0b8ez »

mberning wrote: post #33
remlov wrote: post #27

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Try days, not months. Especially in densely populated areas.

The government has done studies showing that the vast majority of the population would be dead not long after a sustained nationwide power outage. All it takes is people missing a few meals before the fun starts.

Do you have a link to the study?

Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Post by Marsymars »

wongarsu wrote: post #37
bigDinosaur wrote: post #8

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Ignoring unrealistic preparations for most of us (such as bunkers and whatever else), an adequate supply of food and water to handle disruptions to logistics for a realistic amount of time must surely be the lowest hanging fruit (e.g. a month?). This is fairly trivial if you aim for things like rice and pasta, and if the grid goes down for longer than a month a lot of us are dying regardless of how we prepare.

Also a small camping stove with a couple of gas cartridges to ensure you can cook your rice and pasta.

Or with an adapter hose you can connect a standard propane tank. If you get the right connector bits, you can use propane with either a dual-burner Coleman-like stove, or with a minimal Jetboil-like backpacking stove.

Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Post by phyalow »

Animats wrote: post #19

PJM (the US east coast power grid) has issued a warning: 104202 Warning Geomagnetic Disturbance Warning 05.10.2024 13:48 PJM-RTO A Geomagnetic Disturbance Warning has been issued for 13:48 on 05.10.2024 through 21:00 on 05.10.2024. A GMD warning of K8 or greater is in effect for this period. Times are US EDT. This is a warning only. No actions are listed yet.

If anyone else was looking for the source of this, it's here:

https://emergencyprocedures.pjm.com/ep/pages/dashboard.jsf

Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Post by belter »

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #42
remlov wrote: post #27

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Try days, not months. Especially in densely populated areas.

You do realize humanity has had countless famines before right? I grant you, a few of them brought out a regrettable side of humanity but by and large people come together during times of hardship, they don't tear each other apart. I feel like only those who've never felt hunger could contemplate such a savage reaction.

And I hope you realize China had multiple famines with cannibalistic events as recent as 1959: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine
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