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Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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Post by chgs »

nozzlegear wrote: post #28
surfingdino wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, they could "solve" it by installing extra screens on the walls showing ads for package holidays. Of course, that would raise the temperature inside, but it's something that could be solved with extra AC, which would need large batteries and more frequent stops, but that could be solved by... seems to be the way of "innovation" these days, we no longer fix what's broken, but break what works and charge extra for i…

Are you inventing dystopian scenarios just so you can be angry, or do you have access to Polestar's internal plans?

All large companies and cartels eventually bow to pressure. “If you don’t bombard your customers with adverts then you are leaving money on the table”

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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Post by chgs »

dgan wrote: post #39
blendo wrote: post #20

OT: carbuzz.com estimated its curb weight as about 5,500 lbs. That’s good when you’re driving 80mph on the freeway, but way too big around town. I’d like to see drivers in US cities have the option for something smaller, like Renault’s new Duo, the replacement for the Twizy: https://insideevs.com/news/615402/renault-mobilize-duo-is-ne...

>> all-electric quadricycle that will be offered on subscription or long-term leases only Lol finally! Auto industry catching up with the latest and greatest software trend!

Leasing cars has been quite normal for decades. I remember being taken in a leased company car to the game shop to buy transport tycoon once. Not transport tycoon deluxe, the original transport tycoon.

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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Post by cjk2 »

culturestate wrote: post #8

Driving without a rear window isn’t a big deal - see, for example, nearly every cargo delivery van on Earth. I have to imagine the stubborn refusal to add standard physical controls back to the cockpit has more potential for trouble than an impeded rear view. I wonder if there’s NHTSA data on this specifically for passenger cars? Maybe incidents caused by blocking the driver’s rear view (with furniture or people or w…

100% agree on this.

What I'd really like to see is less software in an EV, complete isolation between higher and lower functions, normal physical controls and an ability to run the thing entirely disconnected from the manufacturer's dragnet. It should be able to charge and be driven with all critical instruments working fully disconnected from anything and without software updates.

My colleagues who drive EVs regularly are always having a panic about software updates which break things.

I currently don't own a car as I live in a big city but I do rent one occasionally and did own a Model S for a very short time. If I was to buy a car I'd like an EV next time, but not in the current state of things.

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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BrandoElFollito wrote: post #47

I can switch the camera in my car to replace the normal mirror. This is useful when the trunk is full. I hate it, though, because it forces your eyes to quickly and repeatedly adapt to short vision (the image is close to you), then again on the road etc. There is no such a problem with the normal mirror which shows objects far away so you you don't need to adapt when switching between forward and back view

Reading https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2908311/, it can take half a second (for the oldest age group, in the dark) before an eye even starts to accommodate and, if I’m interpreting RTI correctly, easily another half a second to accommodate. Makes me wonder how sharp an image one needs to see in the rear view mirror to drive. Or do drivers really look to such a screen for over a second while driving?

And of course, getting rid of the front window, too, would get rid of the accommodation issue, but I do not see that being accepted by car drivers soon.

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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Post by ahahahahah »

drdaeman wrote: post #32
dzhiurgis wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strange mental leap. Are you speeding in reverse?

If someone (a kid, or a pet) suddenly appears right behind you, a single second could be crucial, even if you are backing at 1 mph.

A single second is a very long time, typical reaction time is like a tenth of that. Especially at 1 mph. Not only is that a very long time, at 1mph, you are moving less than 2 feet per second. At that speed, your only worry is really a kid diving immediately under your tires.

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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Post by voidUpdate »

Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #53

> Polestar says this allows for "a new kind of immersive rear occupant experience" where passengers are "cocooned" away from the world That sounds awful. (But then I always take the window seat in trains.)

being cocooned away from the world in a moving car sounds like a recipe for motion sickness to me...

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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Post by discordance »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #23
discordance wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aside from regulation, I've had a few (rare) occurences in a Tesla where it's lagged or a camera has glitched out for a few seconds. Those few seconds could be critical on a road at speed.

Strange mental leap. Are you speeding in reverse?

No. What I’m saying is software is more prone to glitches than a mirror.

In the Tesla When you indicate left or right, it brings up the side cameras on screen.

When reversing, the rear view camera is brought up on screen.

You can also hit the camera button when driving to bring up side and rear view cameras on screen at will.

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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Post by rlv-dan »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #47

I can switch the camera in my car to replace the normal mirror. This is useful when the trunk is full. I hate it, though, because it forces your eyes to quickly and repeatedly adapt to short vision (the image is close to you), then again on the road etc. There is no such a problem with the normal mirror which shows objects far away so you you don't need to adapt when switching between forward and back view

> it forces your eyes to quickly and repeatedly adapt to short vision

Sounds like a big nono for "older" people. I'm having difficulty focusing on the dashboard nowadays. Progressive glasses could fix it, but the short distance area is at the bottom, so you would have to tilt your head alot to see the mirror.

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