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Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by Tor3 » Fri, May 10, 2024, 7:25 AM UTC

gbuk2013 wrote: post #9

nanna wrote: post #4

I feel like I haven't seen an anime in years that's been in the same league as Akira or the great Miyazakis (Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, Totoro). Yes i'd be brutal and include Miyazakis following works in that list, from Howls Moving Castle to The Boy and the Heron. Ive seen lots of incredible animation, sure, but nothing like the cinematic depth. What am I missing? What should an old fart who's becoming convin…

This is heavily biased by my preferred genre of anime but here are some my favourite more recent anime series off the top of my head: Full metal Alchemist: Brotherhood https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fullmetal_Alchemist:_Brother... Attack on Titan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Titan Mushishi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushishi Frieren: Beyond Journey's End https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frieren

Strangely (maybe), but Attack on Titan I can't stand, and I didn't care much for any of the Full metal Alchemist ones, but Frieren is one of the absolutely best shows I've ever watched.

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by justinclift » Fri, May 10, 2024, 7:26 AM UTC

gbuk2013 wrote: post #9

nanna wrote: post #4

I feel like I haven't seen an anime in years that's been in the same league as Akira or the great Miyazakis (Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, Totoro). Yes i'd be brutal and include Miyazakis following works in that list, from Howls Moving Castle to The Boy and the Heron. Ive seen lots of incredible animation, sure, but nothing like the cinematic depth. What am I missing? What should an old fart who's becoming convin…

This is heavily biased by my preferred genre of anime but here are some my favourite more recent anime series off the top of my head: Full metal Alchemist: Brotherhood https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fullmetal_Alchemist:_Brother... Attack on Titan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Titan Mushishi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushishi Frieren: Beyond Journey's End https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frieren

> Attack on Titan

Ugh. Such an incredibly padded, dragged out story. :( :( :(

Maybe the first season was decent, but after the 3rd season it was mostly just boring to the point where skipping episodes didn't miss anything.

Never bothered to watch anything after about the 3rd season. It became far too tedious.

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Yeah, Frieren was good. It closely matches the manga version of the story, though the manga goes on quite lot further story wise.

Should be plenty more seasons of material ready for adaptation there. :)

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by duggan » Fri, May 10, 2024, 7:29 AM UTC

djaouen wrote: post #5

Ahh, anime's heyday. I remember borrowing Samurai Champloo on VHS from my friend around that time when I was in high school... good times!

Champloo came out in 2004, wasn’t VHS a distant memory by then, or was I just “living in the future”? :)

Sure you’re not thinking of Cowboy Bebop?

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by djaouen » Fri, May 10, 2024, 7:32 AM UTC

duggan wrote: post #13

djaouen wrote: post #5

Ahh, anime's heyday. I remember borrowing Samurai Champloo on VHS from my friend around that time when I was in high school... good times!

Champloo came out in 2004, wasn’t VHS a distant memory by then, or was I just “living in the future”? :) Sure you’re not thinking of Cowboy Bebop?

It might have been. Even then, I remember thinking that it was odd that it came on VHS. Thanks for the trip down memory lane!

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by gbuk2013 » Fri, May 10, 2024, 7:39 AM UTC

justinclift wrote: post #12

gbuk2013 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is heavily biased by my preferred genre of anime but here are some my favourite more recent anime series off the top of my head: Full metal Alchemist: Brotherhood https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fullmetal_Alchemist:_Brother... Attack on Titan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Titan Mushishi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushishi Frieren: Beyond Journey's End https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frieren

> Attack on Titan Ugh. Such an incredibly padded, dragged out story. :( :( :( Maybe the first season was decent, but after the 3rd season it was mostly just boring to the point where skipping episodes didn't miss anything. Never bothered to watch anything after about the 3rd season. It became far too tedious. --- Yeah, Frieren was good. It closely matches the manga version of the story, though the manga goes on quite…

Still working my way through season 3 so may change my mind. :) Any recommendations?

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by duggan » Fri, May 10, 2024, 7:40 AM UTC

cjk2 wrote: post #6

nanna wrote: post #4

I feel like I haven't seen an anime in years that's been in the same league as Akira or the great Miyazakis (Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, Totoro). Yes i'd be brutal and include Miyazakis following works in that list, from Howls Moving Castle to The Boy and the Heron. Ive seen lots of incredible animation, sure, but nothing like the cinematic depth. What am I missing? What should an old fart who's becoming convin…

There is good stuff out there. I watched Pantheon and Scavengers Reign recently, both excellent, but not old stable anime. Scavengers Reign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWQH8cMpWTU Pantheon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_HJ3TSlo5c

I’m slowly working my way through Scavengers Reign, it’s absolutely brilliant — somewhere between Alien and Stanislaw Lem’s The Invincible.

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by justinclift » Fri, May 10, 2024, 7:45 AM UTC

nanna wrote: post #4

I feel like I haven't seen an anime in years that's been in the same league as Akira or the great Miyazakis (Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, Totoro). Yes i'd be brutal and include Miyazakis following works in that list, from Howls Moving Castle to The Boy and the Heron. Ive seen lots of incredible animation, sure, but nothing like the cinematic depth. What am I missing? What should an old fart who's becoming convin…

That's definitely a "depends on your taste" thing. :)

[The below are mostly series rather than movies]

For something that's really interesting, and also family friendly, Den-noh Coil is really good:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Den-noh_Coil

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A similar "feel" kind of thing (family friendly) to the above is The Orbital Children:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orbital_Children

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For stand out story, probably Made in Abyss:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_in_Abyss

Due to the animation style, it looks like a kid/teen focused show at first. Don't be fooled, it's really not.

It has some incredibly complex (dark) themes. DON'T let young people watch that one (emotional trauma likely!).

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If something "a bit different" is on the cards, then Cyberpunk Edgerunners is extremely good (I reckon):

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk:_Edgerunners

That's more of a Eastern+Western collaboration styling wise rather than pure Japanese anime. It's still a really good watch though. :)

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Another western style one that's really good is Scavengers Reign:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scavengers_Reign

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Movies wise, probably Redline (2009) and Belle are the first to mind for me:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redline_(2009_film)

Very unique animation style, not everyone's cup of tea. ;)

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_(2021_film)

Also family friendly. :)

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by christiaanb » Fri, May 10, 2024, 7:45 AM UTC

djaouen wrote: post #5

Ahh, anime's heyday. I remember borrowing Samurai Champloo on VHS from my friend around that time when I was in high school... good times!

Perhaps the only anime where the voice actor for one of the Dutch characters actually speaks proper Dutch (as opposed to e.g. German or very broken Dutch). Although they picked a weird translation for the concept of boss/chief/ranking officer, and they chose “opperhoofd”; which as a Dutch person is something you associate as a person that is the head of a tribe, not ranking officer.

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by justinclift » Fri, May 10, 2024, 7:47 AM UTC

gbuk2013 wrote: post #15

justinclift wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Attack on Titan Ugh. Such an incredibly padded, dragged out story. :( :( :( Maybe the first season was decent, but after the 3rd season it was mostly just boring to the point where skipping episodes didn't miss anything. Never bothered to watch anything after about the 3rd season. It became far too tedious. --- Yeah, Frieren was good. It closely matches the manga version of the story, though the manga goes on quite…

Still working my way through season 3 so may change my mind. :) Any recommendations?

Yeah, I wrote a whole list a few comments up (or down). You can't miss it. :)

As a quick thought, have you seen Cyberpunk Edgerunners, and Made in Abyss?

For stupid fun (mood dependent), then probably One-Punch Man:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Punch_Man

It's super famous these days, so you've probably already seen it. ;)

Personally, I also really liked "Hai to Gensou no Grimgar" due to its focus on character growth rather than action:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimgar_of_Fantasy_and_Ash

But, not everyone's a fan.

Re: Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'

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Post by imp0cat » Fri, May 10, 2024, 7:50 AM UTC

Oh it's nice to see Animation Obsessive here. Their blog https://animationobsessive.substack.com/ is worthy of a subscription - most of their articles are both informative and very well written.