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Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Post by Planktonne »

titzer wrote: post #54

> Additionally, members of the program receive priority placement and “richer brand expression” in chat conversations, and their content benefits from more prominent link treatments. Hi, the future called and it's been enshittified. Hey, OpenAI! You could harness AI to give every child a superhuman intelligence as a tutor, you could harness AI to cut through endless reams of SEO'd bullshit that is the old enshittifie…

> You could harness AI to give every child a superhuman intelligence as a tutor

I don't disagree with the overall point you're making, but there is currently absolutely no reason to believe this is true.

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Post by hitpointdrew »

arcticfox wrote: post #12
LegitShady wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

where do you buy your slide cards? they don't exist. its not a deck.

definition 5 - https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/deck Pedantry like this always intrigues me when it's so clearly wrong both in daily use and formal sources...like where is it coming from?

>Pedantry like this always intrigues me when it's so clearly wrong both in daily use and formal sources...like where is it coming from?

Its coming from common sense, which seems to be forgone these days. Just because something is, common, accepted, written in stone, written in the fucking dictionary doesn’t mean it’s correct.

There is no logical argument for calling electronic presentations "decks", period.

Go back to overhead projectors, what were those called cards? No they were called transparencies. No one ever said "Hand me that deck of transparencies", no they would have called it stack, not a deck.

So what happened is one day some high ranking jack-ass in suit called it a "deck" because they thought it made them sound more intelligent than they actually are, and no one in the room had the balls to say "What the fuck did you just call the power point?" So here we are, with idiots parroting the useless business jargon it has now become "accepted", and written the fucking dictionary.

If some moron can start a trend and get idiotic business jargon into the general lexicon, them maybe this moron can get it out.

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Post by hitpointdrew »

Latty wrote: post #31
LegitShady wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

where do you buy your slide cards? they don't exist. its not a deck.

Do you also refuse to call music albums "albums"? The etymology is the exact same thing. Terms stick as formats change, that's the English language as it is used and it's not new or wrong.

>The etymology is the exact same thing. Terms stick as formats change

What etymology? In the overhead projector days they were called transparencies (not cards), and you would have said "a stack of transparencies", not a deck.

Deck is a new made-up business jargon.

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Post by stale2002 »

beeboobaa3 wrote: post #249
stale2002 wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The US government has worked hard to make the lives of copyright infringers miserable for years They really have not. The fact that I can download any movie in the world right now, and use all of the open source models on my home PC proves that. I am sure there are some random one off cases of infringers being punished, but it mostly doesn't happen. Especially if we are talking about the entire tech industry. The g…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number

My point stands. Thats like one guy. Thats not ""an entire industry gets shutdown by the government".

That was my point. Sure, they might go after like one guy or one company. They aren't going to take out half of the tech startups in all of the US though. They also aren't going to confiscate everyone's gamer PCs.

I also think its funny that you literally posted a wikipedia page, where in the page itself it contains the "illegal" numbers.

So that proves my entire point. Your best example, is apparently an example where I can access the "illegal" information on a literal public wikipedia page!

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Post by hitpointdrew »

Animats wrote: post #17
nickff wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did you arrive at this conclusion? 'Deck' seems to be a widely used and accepted term: "Collectively, a group of slides may be known as a slide deck." source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presentation_slide

Look up "Overhead projector", a dead technology.

Overhead projector slides were called transparencies, not cards. Deck makes no sense.

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

pashsoft wrote: post #119

So partnerships are available only to "select, high-quality editorial partners" - is that a polite way of saying "rich"? I expect chatGPT will be very effective at delivering targeted advertising and shilling products, because truth and accuracy are not required for the job. Writing convincing bullshit about $product is basically a perfect use-case for it. And since it's just a computer program you can't sue it for f…

No, it's not a euphemism for "rich". Fox news will never be allowed in this scheme.

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

yborg wrote: post #62
CuriouslyC wrote: post #51

There's no way this doesn't backfire. OpenAI has no moat, so making the bot/api a shill just means people are going to use something else. GPT5 would have to be an order of magnitude better on the price/performance scale for me to even get close to this.

Everything else is going to be a shill, too. 'People' will eventually have to pay for these valuations.

I already have llama on my local machine, nothing anyone can do will make it shill products to me.

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

sangnoir wrote: post #171
flir wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds a bit illegal. I have to assume they'd notify the end-user, at a bare minimum.

> Sounds a bit illegal. Can be fixed by an EULA update that adds a clause stating "Response may contain paid product placement" to be im compliance with laws written for television 20 years ago. Legislation is consistently behind technological advances

That would be illegal in EU.

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Post by nextworddev »

d_burfoot wrote: post #73

Another angle here is: it is going to be very valuable to some companies to ensure that their datasets go into the LLM training process. For example, if you are AWS, you really want to make sure that the next version of GPT has all of the AWS documentation in the training corpus, because that ensures GPT can answer questions about how to work with AWS tools. I expect OpenAI and others will start to charge for this ki…

well, as for AWS docs, I'd argue it's in OpenAI's interest to include them in training corpus.

Generally speaking, high value content will get indexed, whether voluntarily or via paid channels

Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Post by lioeters »

hotsauceror wrote: post #149
sensanaty wrote: post #130

Ah so this is that oft-touted "progress" I hear AI sycophants talk about breathlessly, ways for companies to shove more ads down our throats!

Also, profiteering is just piker stuff. Imagine what major intelligence agencies will do once they set up front companies to prioritize placing their own 'content' as a training set.

Manufacturing consent has never been easier: get priority placement and richer brand expression of your ideology in chat conversations that influence how people think.
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