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Post by __loam »

chx wrote: post #87
darby_eight wrote: post #39

Why would anyone use chatgpt if it spams you? The second it recommends me a product i'm issuing a chargeback.

The right question is "Why would anyone use chatgpt". The answer is https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/112006855076082650 > You might be surprised to learn that I actually think LLMs have the potential to be not only fun but genuinely useful. “Show me some bullshit that would be typical in this context” can be a genuinely helpful question to have answered, in code and in natural language — for brainstorming, for seeing…

I think this guy is hitting on something deeper here, which is that these things took an absolutely enormous amount of capital and burned a lot of public goodwill to create, but the end product isn't living up to that.

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Post by dylan604 »

boringg wrote: post #201
ericskiff wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Counterpoint - I pay for my whole team to have access, shared tools, etc. we also spend a decent amount on their APIs across a number of client projects. OpenAI has a strong revenue model based on paid use

Not compared to the training costs it doesn't and it's competition is fierce especially with llama open-sourcing.

The second one costs $0.01. The first one cost $100^x where X is some large number. It's common in pretty much every form of business

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Post by dylan604 »

treyd wrote: post #191
samfriedman wrote: post #29

>Additionally, members of the program receive priority placement and “richer brand expression” in chat conversations, and their content benefits from more prominent link treatments. Finally, through PPP, OpenAI also offers licensed financial terms to publishers. This is what a lot of people pushing for open models fear - responses of commercial models will be biased based on marketing spend.

It's also illegal in any jurisdictions that require advertisements to be clearly labelled.

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Post by dylan604 »

swader999 wrote: post #103
willcipriano wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I'm feeling sad thinking about ending it all" "You should Snap into a Slim Jim!"

In Canada, the LLM will mention our MAID program promoted through provincial government cost control programs to reduce health care expenses.

Only if the health care program paid more than Slim Jim is the problem.

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Post by chankstein38 »

hwbunny wrote: post #150
throwaway4233 wrote: post #124

> Additionally, members of the program receive priority placement and “richer brand expression” in chat conversations, and their content benefits from more prominent link treatments. Finally, through PPP, OpenAI also offers licensed financial terms to publishers. > A recent model from The Atlantic found that if a search engine like Google were to integrate AI into search, it would answer a user’s query 75% of the tim…

Average user will NOT CLICK on those links. Anyone who ever had a news site and did some research how people interact with the content knows this. You show the source, but only a tiny amount of users click on those links.

I think this is true. Even now with Google's summaries at the top of the page, people usually just take what that says as fact and move on.

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Post by OtherShrezzing »

devbent wrote: post #167
boringg wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was anyone expecting anything else? AI is going to follow a similar path to the internet -- embedded ads since it will need to fund itself and revenue path is very far from clearcut. Brands that get it on the earliest training in large volume will have benefits accrued over the long term.

OpenAI's problem is demonstrating how much value their tools add to a worker's productivity. However calculating how much value a worker has in an organization is already a mostly unsolved problem for humanity, so it is no surprise that even if a tool 5xs human productivity, the makers of the tool will have serious problems demonstrating the tool's value.

Since 1987, labour productivity has doubled[1]. A 5x increase would be immediately obvious. If a tool were able to increase productivity on that scale, it would lift every human out of poverty. It'd probably move humanity into a post-scarcity species. 5x is "by Monday afternoon, staff have each done 40 pre-ai-equivalent-hours worth of work".

[1] https://usafacts.org/articles/what-is-labor-productivity-and...

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Post by numpad0 »

nickff wrote: post #5
hitpointdrew wrote: post #2

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How did you arrive at this conclusion? 'Deck' seems to be a widely used and accepted term: "Collectively, a group of slides may be known as a slide deck." source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presentation_slide

see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversal_film

I'm not in tears.

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Post by itishappy »

ericskiff wrote: post #169
itishappy wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're offering an expensive service for free. Could it go any other way?

Counterpoint - I pay for my whole team to have access, shared tools, etc. we also spend a decent amount on their APIs across a number of client projects. OpenAI has a strong revenue model based on paid use

I don't. I hope you're not paying for my use too.

Ideally they keep us siloed, but I've lost confidence. I've paid for Windows, Amazon Prime, YouTube Premium, my phone, food, you name it, but that hasn't kept the sponsorships at bay.

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Post by beeboobaa3 »

stale2002 wrote: post #209
beeboobaa3 wrote: post #161

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They believe a lot of things, I'm sure. > and the winners of the AI race will be those who didn't wait for this question to be settled. Hopefully they'll be in jail.

Its not just the big companies you have to think about, lol. Sure you can sue OpenAI. But will you be able to sue every single AI startup that happens to be working on Open Source AI tech, that was all trained this way? Absolutely not. Its simply not feasible. The cat is out of the bag.

The US government has worked hard to make the lives of copyright infringers miserable for years, even driving them to suicide.
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