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Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Post by warkdarrior »

titzer wrote: post #54

> Additionally, members of the program receive priority placement and “richer brand expression” in chat conversations, and their content benefits from more prominent link treatments. Hi, the future called and it's been enshittified. Hey, OpenAI! You could harness AI to give every child a superhuman intelligence as a tutor, you could harness AI to cut through endless reams of SEO'd bullshit that is the old enshittifie…

> AI to give every child a superhuman intelligence as a tutor

How much would you pay for that?

> AI to cut through endless reams of SEO'd bullshit that is the old enshittified internet

How much would you pay for that?

Is it more or less than what a company would pay OpenAI to boost their brand?

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Post by itishappy »

epolanski wrote: post #145
pelagicAustral wrote: post #46

So soon enough we'll get stuff like: > Me: Give me a small sample code in Ruby that takes two parameters and returns the Levenshtein distance between them. > ChatGPT: DID YOU HEAR ABOUT C#? It's even faster that light, now with better performance than Ruby!!! Get started here: https://ms.com/cs I can generate the code in Ruby or I can give you 20% discount on Microsoft publishing on any C# book!!!

Or you will pay a monthly subscription and get no ads.

Or you pay a monthly subscription and get ads regardless.

Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Post by nonrandomstring »

torpfactory wrote: post #128
pelagicAustral wrote: post #46

So soon enough we'll get stuff like: > Me: Give me a small sample code in Ruby that takes two parameters and returns the Levenshtein distance between them. > ChatGPT: DID YOU HEAR ABOUT C#? It's even faster that light, now with better performance than Ruby!!! Get started here: https://ms.com/cs I can generate the code in Ruby or I can give you 20% discount on Microsoft publishing on any C# book!!!

It's worse than that: > Me: Give me a small sample code in Ruby that takes two parameters and returns the Levenshtein distance between them. > ChatGPT: > But here is some C# code that is faster. For tasks like this a lot of programmers are using C#, you wouldn't want to get left behind.

> you wouldn't want to get left behind.

I realise more and more lately that actually, yes, I do want to be left behind. Please, please, leave me behind.

Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Post by freeplay »

elorant wrote: post #138
shoggouth wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you see the marketing point of ChatGPT to be conversational ads?

The ads don't need to be conversational, they could be just references at the end of the answer.

Which is arguably even more insidious.

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Post by sangnoir »

matusp wrote: post #88
darby_eight wrote: post #39

Why would anyone use chatgpt if it spams you? The second it recommends me a product i'm issuing a chargeback.

They are getting ready for the inevitable copyright wars.

They are also salting the ground behind themselves so no competitors can grow or thrive. Their "brand partners" won't let LLM upstarts use or scrape the same data OpenAI has licensed, OpenAI is leveraging its first-mover advantage to cordon off data sources.

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Post by whatevaa »

mempko wrote: post #48
add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think there was much reason to believe the endgame was ever going to be anything but this.

I mean for a split second I thought "Wow, they were charging for their service, this is nice". I guess that isn't enough anymore. You pay them and then they also get paid by selling you. What a world we live in.

At the cost of running those models, they are probably loosing money on you.

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Post by beeboobaa3 »

mdavidn wrote: post #24
beeboobaa3 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> OpenAI has presumably already ingested and trained on these publishers’ archival data So they're admitting to copyright violations and theft?

Whether training a model on text constitutes copyright infringement is an unresolved legal question. The closest precedent would be search engines using automated processes to build an index and links, which is generally not seen as infringing (in the US).

https://www.rvo.nl/onderwerpen/octrooien-ofwel-patenten/vorm...

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Post by mvkel »

nolongerthere wrote: post #144
mvkel wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gotta pay for all that compute somehow. It's not what users want, it's what users will accept. Many precedents have been set here, unfortunately.

They literally charge a LOT for their services

$20 ARPU averages out to about $1 in profit in typical SaaS. Gotta generate more than that to make investors whole, unfortunately

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Post by hwbunny »

_hl_ wrote: post #100

People here seem to treat this like advertising, because it kinda sounds familiar to advertising. I’m as critical of ClosedAI as the next guy, but let’s think that idea through: OpenAI are the ones paying the content provider for exposure, not the other way around. In return they get training data. The only reason for OpenAI to do this is if it makes their models better in some way so that they can monetize that perf…

They are paying to the bigheaded ones, what about the rest? Will they get money for people consuming their content through ChatGPT or, since you are too small, thanks for your data, now F off? LLMs already only show you just a selected few sites' content when doing search on the web. It's a gargantuan bubble.
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