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Familial Transmission of Personality Is Higher Than Shown in Typical Studies

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Re: Familial Transmission of Personality Is Higher Than Shown in Typical Studies

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Post by [deleted] »

civilian wrote: post #8
jokoon wrote: post #2

Even when kids are put in school, they still spend a lot of time with their parents, and children do a lot of mimetic Would genetics lead to some personality disorder that are common in a family, and would that lead to similar personalities? Or would some brain-related genes lead to some forms of personality tendencies? I would also guess the definition of personality could be rejected by skeptics, since it's very di…

The personality metrics they're using are the Big-5. The Big 5 has good test-retest scores (if you take the test a month apart, you're likely to get the same scores). Big 5 is used in a ton of psychological studies now. If I had to bet on nature vs nurture, I'd place bets on nature. Separated twin studies seem to suggest genes are a strong determiner. And if you've ever met a kid who stubbornly prefers to be introver…

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Post by rulalala »

Is there a good book on the subject? I am curious about the evidence and theorisarion of this for interests related to myself. As an anecdote, I have a loved adopted cousin that even adopted (unconsciously, of course) all our familiar psycho-somatic pains.

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Post by ortusdux »

crmd wrote: post #5

The big difference seems to come from self-reporting vs independent reporting. In other words, people around you think your personality is more similar to your dad’s than you think it is.

I agree. I've noticed that people tend to think they are average in comparison to someone else in their family with a slightly stronger expression of a trait. "You think I'm frugal! You should meet my mother! She always ..."

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Post by Aeolun »

whimsicalism wrote: post #17

It seems that this is a taboo topic to discuss oftentimes (especially academically), despite the fact that most people I meet seem to have an intuitive understanding that kids are often like parents. It also provides compelling alternate explanations for things like 'children of abusive parents are more likely to abuse' that you also are not really allowed to discuss nowadays.

It seems kinda reasonable that if you think something is normal, you’ll normally do it.

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Post by whimsicalism »

Aeolun wrote: post #24
whimsicalism wrote: post #17

It seems that this is a taboo topic to discuss oftentimes (especially academically), despite the fact that most people I meet seem to have an intuitive understanding that kids are often like parents. It also provides compelling alternate explanations for things like 'children of abusive parents are more likely to abuse' that you also are not really allowed to discuss nowadays.

It seems kinda reasonable that if you think something is normal, you’ll normally do it.

And perhaps the children of people prone to anger and violence are more likely to engage in anger and violence for other reasons that we have already shown numerous times to be causal.

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Post by mucle6 »

mjburgess wrote: post #19

For those who arent aware, this entire field is largely pseudoscience; though this paper goes out of its way to be fairly sincere in its modelling, it's still just nonesense methodologically. The correlation coefficient is not a measure of correlation, but of co-linearity, and coefficients the entire system of computing correlation coefficients is bunk if the data is nonlinear. Almost all interesting phenomena outsid…

Can you share some resources or topics to research for someone who doesn't know what a weak effect or co-linearity?

If I google those topics, I don't know if I'll find anything relating to a criticism of this field.

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Post by [deleted] »

whimsicalism wrote: post #25
Aeolun wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems kinda reasonable that if you think something is normal, you’ll normally do it.

And perhaps the children of people prone to anger and violence are more likely to engage in anger and violence for other reasons that we have already shown numerous times to be causal.

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Post by phkahler »

lazide wrote: post #13
actionfromafar wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it nature vs nurture? If, so, how does your anecdote untangle that?

I think the taboo the poster was referring to was more along the lines of discussion of actual free will, level of control of self, etc. My take is that free will is, 90% of the time, a necessary lie. Because if we didn’t believe it, everything would get far far worse.

>> My take is that free will is, 90% of the time, a necessary lie. Because if we didn’t believe it, everything would get far far worse.

Why? Would people choose to do bad things because they don't have a choice?

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Post by throwaway22032 »

Some of the comments here are quite baffling for me to read.

Of course I'm like my parents. I'm completely made up of their genetic material and for my formative years I spent almost all of my time with them.

I've never considered this to be taboo either, it's bloody obvious. Is there some sort of hidden context here I'm not getting?

Re: Familial Transmission of Personality Is Higher Than Shown in Typical Studies

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Post by throwaway924385 »

whimsicalism wrote: post #17

It seems that this is a taboo topic to discuss oftentimes (especially academically), despite the fact that most people I meet seem to have an intuitive understanding that kids are often like parents. It also provides compelling alternate explanations for things like 'children of abusive parents are more likely to abuse' that you also are not really allowed to discuss nowadays.

Why aren't you allowed to discuss it?
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