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Post by harshithmul »

barrell wrote: post #25
harshithmul wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, our user interface (UI) shares similarities with Linear’s. We, too, are fans of Linear and appreciate its user experience (UX). After speaking with a lot of people, we concluded that it’s top-notch. Consequently, we wanted to give that experience rather than attempting to reinvent the wheel. Despite drawing inspiration from Linear, we built everything from scratch. Our primary focus is the AI and task priorit…

This feels disingenuous. You may have coded everything from scratch, but I couldn’t tell if this was a linear plugin or separate app from the first few seconds. To say linear was just a source of inspiration is just not true. Call a spade a spade - linear’s ui is the best in the business so you copied it outright, down to the icons.

Makes sense. Sure we will start working there more.

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Post by harshithmul »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #29
gwervc wrote: post #20

> Then we use AI to automatically create a title from the description, so you don't have to spend time figuring out a title Yes please, tickets that POs spent even less time thinking and writing about.

While I can detect that perhaps you don’t feel like this is a useful feature, this is absolutely a legitimate and useful feature. I use it literally every day with Linear. With Linear you can make a ticket in Slack by clicking the … and selecting “make linear ticket”, which gens out a ticket that summarizes the title using AI and pulls in the conversation that you genned it out from, including future updates. The ai…

Thank you for your validation. Indeed, we have removed the title from the standard issue creation process. We are also actively working to improve it.

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

harshithmul wrote: post #32
SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I can detect that perhaps you don’t feel like this is a useful feature, this is absolutely a legitimate and useful feature. I use it literally every day with Linear. With Linear you can make a ticket in Slack by clicking the … and selecting “make linear ticket”, which gens out a ticket that summarizes the title using AI and pulls in the conversation that you genned it out from, including future updates. The ai…

Thank you for your validation. Indeed, we have removed the title from the standard issue creation process. We are also actively working to improve it.

I’ll also add, not shilling for you, but only because I think it is valuable boots on the ground information: The product owners in our org don’t ever use this feature. The only people that use this Linear feature are engineers like myself who are more interested in doing work than spending all day writing about work in tickets.

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Post by PhilippGille »

pydry wrote: post #23

I was hoping somebody at some point would create an agent for interacting with jira so I could minimize my interaction with its horrendous UI. Nothing fancy, just a bot that can answer questions about tickets and create and edit tickets based upon a haphazard slack conversation. It's an ideal use case for generative AI, but for some reason nobody wants to do this because they're too busy getting genai to write unit t…

I've built a PoC for semantic search and chat for Jira. Just a CLI that uses the Jira API to iterate through all tickets and uses https://github.com/philippgille/chromem-go for creating, storing and querying the embeddings. The chat doesn't work very well, but the semantic search is very useful.

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Post by harshithmul »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #33
harshithmul wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for your validation. Indeed, we have removed the title from the standard issue creation process. We are also actively working to improve it.

I’ll also add, not shilling for you, but only because I think it is valuable boots on the ground information: The product owners in our org don’t ever use this feature. The only people that use this Linear feature are engineers like myself who are more interested in doing work than spending all day writing about work in tickets.

Gotcha thank you :+1

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Post by steve1977 »

harshithmul wrote: post #26
gwervc wrote: post #20

> Then we use AI to automatically create a title from the description, so you don't have to spend time figuring out a title Yes please, tickets that POs spent even less time thinking and writing about.

Our goal is to inspire people to provide comprehensive descriptions of the issues they report, without the worry of making them concise. From our experience, while it's easy to describe things, articulating them can be challenging. Hence, we encourage thorough descriptions first and then we'll help refine them into a clear, well-contextualized title.

It will be interesting to see how well this works.

Often people just provide the title of tickets (“It does not work!!”) and don’t even care about proper descriptions.

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Post by steve1977 »

harshithmul wrote: post #18
piterrro wrote: post #15

Aren't you afraid of a potential lawsuit from Linear[1]? Your interface looks like a copy paste. Dont get me wrong, it's amazing what you've build but cloning a well funded startup may not be the best strategy. 1 https://linear.app

Indeed, our user interface (UI) shares similarities with Linear’s. We, too, are fans of Linear and appreciate its user experience (UX). After speaking with a lot of people, we concluded that it’s top-notch. Consequently, we wanted to give that experience rather than attempting to reinvent the wheel. Despite drawing inspiration from Linear, we built everything from scratch. Our primary focus is the AI and task priorit…

> Despite drawing inspiration from Linear, we built everything from scratch.

If I was to reimplement Excel from scratch but make it look like Excel, Microsoft would still sue the shit out of me.

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

mirzap wrote: post #17
piterrro wrote: post #15

Aren't you afraid of a potential lawsuit from Linear[1]? Your interface looks like a copy paste. Dont get me wrong, it's amazing what you've build but cloning a well funded startup may not be the best strategy. 1 https://linear.app

Todoist has had this interface for years. It's standard nowadays, like a grid. I really don't get what people see in Linear; it is way overhyped but a polished app.

Linear is a great tool but honestly it’s mostly because it’s bug free and has a decent amount of features. Project management software feels like it will eventually become commoditized I think, if we haven’t arrived there already. In the end there’s only so many ways to abstract what a “project” is so eventually the selling point will be based mostly on automation, integrations and UX after that original set of features is there.

It’s why I’m quite bull on GitHub’s project management software, because they’ve already got the integration and automation stories handled. They just need to catch up with feature parity and UX. The second that they get that, they will absolutely start eating these other companies lunch. And they are getting closer every year

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Post by camwest »

harshithmul wrote: post #21
camwest wrote: post #19

Congrats on launch! It’s inspiring to see you building in the open. Why build Nest on the server when you already have Next for the client?

In order to ensure everything is fast and real-time, we built a sync engine that runs in the background. We also use queues to perform some actions asynchronously. These factors influenced our decision to proceed with a server and scale as necessary. We were comfortable with this architecture, having used it in our previous apps. This setup also offered us the flexibility to work quickly, as I focused on the frontend…

Makes sense.

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Post by thawab »

mirzap wrote: post #17
piterrro wrote: post #15

Aren't you afraid of a potential lawsuit from Linear[1]? Your interface looks like a copy paste. Dont get me wrong, it's amazing what you've build but cloning a well funded startup may not be the best strategy. 1 https://linear.app

Todoist has had this interface for years. It's standard nowadays, like a grid. I really don't get what people see in Linear; it is way overhyped but a polished app.

Put a screenshot of Todoist, linear and Tegon. You will see which is inspired or copied. That's the point a few are making here.
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