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A book Stanley Kubrick didn’t want anyone to read is being published

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Re: A book Stanley Kubrick didn’t want anyone to read is being published

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> From the article, it appears the big sadness for the author was he wrote back and said he was happy to work with Kubrick to discuss getting it to where he was more comfortable with it, Kubrick never responded, and then sent lawyers. That's all that's rough for the writer, here. Very. Who knows how many hours of sweat he poured into it, only to get it shelved when it was done. This, IMHO, is a good reason to recomme…

> This, IMHO, is a good reason to recommend everyone read The Mom Test at some point in their adult life. It is not. These things aren’t comparable. Most people will get nothing out of that book. > What probably happened was that the author got the initial agreement from Kubric by being so persistent that Kubric agreed just to make them go away. Why speculate to excuse Kubrick and victim blame Hornick, when the answe…

> Most people will get nothing out of that book.

I disagree with this. Even if you're not trying to build a business, almost everyone would benefit from the ability to distinguish a "Yes (but not really - we just want you to leave)" and a "Yes (we're in agreement)".

Most people can't tell the difference between the two.

> Why speculate to excuse Kubrick and victim blame Hornick, when the answer is in the article? He was commissioned to write the book:

I'm not trying to excuse anyone, I'm just saying that there is probably more to this than we heard, and one possibility is that the author interpreted a lukewarm signal as a yes, when in reality almost all lukewarm "yes"'s are "no"'s.

> He had been commissioned to write the very first book on Kubrick by cinema specialist The Tantivy Press more than 50 years ago.

That just moves the problem by a single degree - maybe it was the Tantivy Press that pestered Kubrick until he said yes to make them go away.

PS I do not understand why parent, latexr, was downvoted so heavily. He's making an argument, and it's clear his making it in good faith, not merely being a jackass. I don't think that type of argument should be downvoted.

Re: A book Stanley Kubrick didn’t want anyone to read is being published

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post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Appealing to authority doesn't negate what I said. There was a clear narrative to the story, Kubrick failed to convey it. That is poor film making.

I’ve seen the movie a few times and no part of it is confusing. The movie and the story it tells is coherent and, I dare say, pretty obvious. It’s unfortunate that you were not able to follow it, both because of your obvious dissatisfaction and because now you’re making a lot of bad posts.

This film is definitely a trigger for me, so I'll concede that I'm over-reacting. However, I do not believe the ending was easy to follow, not just because I didn't understand it, but because I've never heard anybody who's only seen the film say they understood it either.
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