An artist set something similar up between NYC and London in 2008 — was always fun to walk by.
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#52Cool stuff. It's kind of interesting because the time zones are several hours off, so I wonder how well it works at night. From the renders I see the quality doesn't seem that great (for better or worse), still quite fascinating to look through I'm sure.
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#53Awesome! There’s a really cool company in Japan doing something similar for enterprise: https://tonari.no/en
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Why 1/30th? Latency will be far more than that due to speed of light. My mpeg vision circuits are about 480ms end to end from Washington/New York to London. The j2k ones are faster but still in the 200ms range. In theory you could get it down to sub 100ms but at that point you are certainly having to engineer your paths correctly and use barely any compression. Uncompressed 4k is in the 10gbit range. My uhd jxs bitra…
OP is correct, 1/30 s is a good ballpark theoretical lower bound. Assuming travel across the earth surface, light in a vacuum take about 14ms to cross the distances. Times two for round trip that’s about 1/30 s. Of course we don’t have anywhere near ideal conditions there (at a minimum, light in fiber is already slower, closer to 40ms round trip in that case, and of course network infrastructure adds orders of magnit…
You don’t need round trip with live video, you can push frames in UDP packets from both sides.
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It doesn't say what technology is used, does it? Could be using wifi, or cell networks.
Wired, using the subsea fiber cables, your still stuck at a 60 ms RTT minimum from NYC to Dublin. Add in video transcoding time and a more realistic estimate of the networks on either side, and you're looking at latency closer to 200-400 ms. WiFi over this distance actually isn't a significant contributor to latency.
Actually transcoding can be done far below that with consumer hardware. I’m doing Quicksync accelerated transcoding right now for Moonlight and encoding/decoding latency is only a few ms. And Wifi is, by far the greatest source of latency. In fact I can get data to a datacenter a few hundred km away over a fiber connection faster than Wifi across the room (<5ms vs 10-20ms)
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#57I hope this helps manifest a real portal but yeah JetBlue may disagree (i.e. unmanifest)
That was an ad in the beginning, right?
So that JetBlue can sell more credit cards? https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/airlines-b...
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#58This is great. We should have many more of these. I am always surprised how different cities in other countries are when you travel there vs. what you see in the media. I really think this can bring people together.
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#59I wonder how long it will be before we realize we can't have nice things.
In the meantime, this seems cool!
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wired, using the subsea fiber cables, your still stuck at a 60 ms RTT minimum from NYC to Dublin. Add in video transcoding time and a more realistic estimate of the networks on either side, and you're looking at latency closer to 200-400 ms. WiFi over this distance actually isn't a significant contributor to latency.
Actually transcoding can be done far below that with consumer hardware. I’m doing Quicksync accelerated transcoding right now for Moonlight and encoding/decoding latency is only a few ms. And Wifi is, by far the greatest source of latency. In fact I can get data to a datacenter a few hundred km away over a fiber connection faster than Wifi across the room (<5ms vs 10-20ms)
A few hundred km and 5000-7000 km under the ocean are very different. Good to know transcoding can be so fast, though.
Dublin is about 10-50 times further from NY than you are from that datacenter, and the speed of light is a universal limit.