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'Underwater bicycle' propels swimmers forward at superhuman speed

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Is a Monocycle something different to a Unicycle?

Apparently! I did not expect such a nice find after asking search engine this: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=1700041 > There are two main types of single-wheeled vehicles. In a unicycle, the rider sits above the wheel. These vehicles are recognizable by most people. Less well known is the monocycle, where the rider sits inside the wheel.

yeah likewise the dicycle has two big wheels side by side haha

Re: 'Underwater bicycle' propels swimmers forward at superhuman speed

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Yeah I think for most uses I would still prefer fins for their agility. Cool idea though, and we probably haven't seen peak efficiency here.

Peak efficiency probably looks like this: https://newatlas.com/marine/jetcycle-hydrofoil-pedal-bike/

That looks absolutely amazing. Super cool that you can maintain elevation at less than 6 MPH — I was expecting it to be closer to 10 or 15 MPH.

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> I swim because I enjoy it, not because I'm trying to get somewhere fast. I run because I enjoy it, not because I’m trying to get somewhere fast. But I also bike because I enjoy it, not because I’m trying to get somewhere fast. You seem to assume that because this thing is faster, it must automatically be less enjoyable. That’s not the case for bikes, why should it be the case here? In my opinion it sounds fun, and…

Maybe not necessarily "faster" but there is an idea that adding any kind of technology should be avoided for recreational activities. For example, you can mountain bike with a fully-suspended e-bike, or you can struggle with a hardtail or even a road bike. Different kinds of fun, but in the former you'll wonder if it's the technology doing all the work.

I don't think this argument holds water (pun intended), though, since this device is completely human-powered.

Re: 'Underwater bicycle' propels swimmers forward at superhuman speed

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Not sure why you're downvoted. Five minutes for a 500 Free is a pretty typical time for boys on highschool swim teams.

It has been a while since I was a competitive swimmer (AAA+) but imho five minutes is a very good time for 500m. That would be faster than 95% of master swimmers at such distances, and well into the 0.01% of humans overall.

Ah shit your right, I had in mind 500 (yard) Free. 500 meters in under five is very good, but still attainable by the upper tier of highschool swimmers I think. I could reliably do 500 yards in under five and was a "B relay" tier on my team.

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Peak efficiency probably looks like this: https://newatlas.com/marine/jetcycle-hydrofoil-pedal-bike/

That looks absolutely amazing. Super cool that you can maintain elevation at less than 6 MPH — I was expecting it to be closer to 10 or 15 MPH.

6mph is nothing to sneeze at on the water, in terms of the power it takes to sustain that kind of speed.

A person paddling can't sustain 6mph for very long, if they get there at all.

Re: 'Underwater bicycle' propels swimmers forward at superhuman speed

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That looks absolutely amazing. Super cool that you can maintain elevation at less than 6 MPH — I was expecting it to be closer to 10 or 15 MPH.

6mph is nothing to sneeze at on the water, in terms of the power it takes to sustain that kind of speed. A person paddling can't sustain 6mph for very long, if they get there at all.

World record for a human powered hydrofoil is 21.3 mph. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decavitator 6mph looks a lot more reasonable in that context.

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It has been a while since I was a competitive swimmer (AAA+) but imho five minutes is a very good time for 500m. That would be faster than 95% of master swimmers at such distances, and well into the 0.01% of humans overall.

Ah shit your right, I had in mind 500 (yard) Free. 500 meters in under five is very good, but still attainable by the upper tier of highschool swimmers I think. I could reliably do 500 yards in under five and was a "B relay" tier on my team.

The almost-meter Yard has got to pack its bags and go home soon. What is it even doing at this point other than causing naked numeral confusion.

Re: 'Underwater bicycle' propels swimmers forward at superhuman speed

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That looks absolutely amazing. Super cool that you can maintain elevation at less than 6 MPH — I was expecting it to be closer to 10 or 15 MPH.

6mph is nothing to sneeze at on the water, in terms of the power it takes to sustain that kind of speed. A person paddling can't sustain 6mph for very long, if they get there at all.

Sure, but a person paddling isn't hydrofoiling, right? They're using their arms instead of legs and contending with tons of additional friction/drag. I see this as being akin to bicycling, since it uses the same muscles.

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Yeah I think for most uses I would still prefer fins for their agility. Cool idea though, and we probably haven't seen peak efficiency here.

Peak efficiency probably looks like this: https://newatlas.com/marine/jetcycle-hydrofoil-pedal-bike/

Looks like pretty hard work compared to land bikes. You never get to coast downhill. I wonder if you can get it to surf on waves.

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6mph is nothing to sneeze at on the water, in terms of the power it takes to sustain that kind of speed. A person paddling can't sustain 6mph for very long, if they get there at all.

Sure, but a person paddling isn't hydrofoiling, right? They're using their arms instead of legs and contending with tons of additional friction/drag. I see this as being akin to bicycling, since it uses the same muscles.

Here's what I am getting at...

https://youtu.be/SDX3Hz2gsas

A guy on one of these doing the minimum speed. He doesn't look like he's casually pedaling, no?

It's probably harder to maintain 6mph than you might think.

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