Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Vocals never sounded great at wall of sound shows It was Donna.
Harsh
Accurate
The Grateful Dead's Wall of Sound (2019)
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Re: The Grateful Dead's Wall of Sound (2019)
#102Th' Dead not only allowed taping, they encouraged it: at the shows I attended, there was invariably a small grove of microphones set up near the soundboard, in the middle of the audience. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taper_(concert) (a disadvantage to too much ethology reading: I can't remember "Bill Graham Presents" without thinking of baboon behaviour)
I'd love to hear more about your experience and observations of taping at the shows. Not only did GD (and particularly Jerry Garcia and John Perry Barlow) eschew the 'intellectual property' model of music, their thought-leadership has lived on to become much of what we today consider fundamental internet technology and methodology. Early decentralized crypto-economics, peer-to-peer file sharing, and the founding of t…
> their thought-leadership has lived on to become much of what we today consider fundamental internet technology and methodology.
The FLAC codec was developed by deadhead tapers.
Re: The Grateful Dead's Wall of Sound (2019)
#103I remember chatting with a sound technician at a concert once and he told me that putting amplification in front of the performers only started happening in the late 60's (ish). Before that musicians were actually subjected to insane DB's by standing only a few meters in front of the amplification. (Don't take this is as fact, but this diagram suggests that he was correct)
The Beatles had to quit playing live shows because the amps and speakers were too small to compete with the crowd.
Re: The Grateful Dead's Wall of Sound (2019)
#104For those wanting to listen to free legal taped audio of Dead shows, head over to https://relisten.net/grateful-dead or install Relisten app for iOS. All fan supported and open source.
Hey! I created this website and have been maintaining it along with my friend Alec for the last decade. Fun seeing it pop up here on HN. Thanks for sharing!
Relisten is the best, thank you!
Re: The Grateful Dead's Wall of Sound (2019)
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is my kind of tickler/teaser. Thanks for the share.
With the orchestra spread out on stage from left to right, and a bi-directional mic overhead with the capsule facing left-right, you get a channel which is largely the difference between what a listener at the same position would be hearing from each ear. Not exactly, but something like that. So not very listenable on its own. On the same pole facing down at the entire band, you have the omnidirectional mic trying to…
I have a pair of cardioid Neumann sdc that I usually use for a similar purpose, set with on a dual mount with capsules 180° opposed outward.
Re: The Grateful Dead's Wall of Sound (2019)
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
While it's true that they did that and why, I'd ultimately chalk it up as more of a flaw than a feature. Vocals never sounded great on wall of sound shows because they could never sing perfectly into one mic. This can be confirmed by listentng to soundboard tapes of the shows, and comparing them with ones a year or two either side - the full on Wall was only used for about a year. While the WoS laid much of the groun…
> Vocals never sounded great at wall of sound shows It was Donna.
hahaha, no better way to be snapped back into reality than hearing the wild calls of a screeching possum
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#107While the article is interesting, my god is it long and repetitive and winding.
Why does every blog try to write a novel. Please just mainline me information.
But wait, then there wouldnt be room for 700 ads
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#108For a somewhat different (more technical) perspective, look up Robert Heil, who died recently.[0]
I found this story [1] fascinating, and really enjoyed this interview [2] where he talks about working with Joe Walsh, a fellow amateur radio operator, and many others. He had a very midwestern modesty.
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39573756
[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20111005221916/http://www.perfor...
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#109The diagram in the story reminded me of the band Sunn O))) and their stage set up. Certainly a far-flung relation in the same lineage.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/pjeq4/...
Re: The Grateful Dead's Wall of Sound (2019)
#110For those wanting to listen to free legal taped audio of Dead shows, head over to https://relisten.net/grateful-dead or install Relisten app for iOS. All fan supported and open source.
Is this basically a listing of archive.org's live music archive (LMA)?